Penguindrum 9 and MLPFIM S5E21 Liveblog Chat Thingy!

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Penguindrum 8 and MLPFIM S5E19 Liveblog Chat Thingy!

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Penguindrum 7 and MLPFIM S5E17 Liveblog Chat Thingy! (Take Two)

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Penguindrum 7 and MLPFIM S5E17 Liveblog Chat Thingy!

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I am unable to attend this week, so if an attendee could keep a chatlog and post it in the comments, much obliged. I’ll update the post with my own liveblog once I’ve watched.

Penguindrum 6 and MLPFIM S5E14 Liveblog Chat Thingy!

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Yurikuma Arashi 4 and Mawaru Penguindrum 5 Liveblog Chat Thingy!

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Yurikuma Arashi 3 and Mawaru Penguindrum 4 Liveblog Chat Thingy! (Take 2)

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I will try to make it this time, but I’m at the library and Internet there can be spotty. If I don’t, someone please comment with the chatlog, and I’ll update with my own once I’ve had the chance?
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Yurikuma Arashi 3 and Mawaru Penguindrum 4 Liveblog Chat Thingy!

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However, I will not be there this week, as I’m at Intervention. If one of you could please post the chatlog in the comments, it’d be much appreciated.
After I’ve watched the episodes, I’ll update this post with my own chat log.

Yurikuma Arashi 2 and Mawaru Penguindrum 3 Liveblog Chat Thingy!

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After the chat I’ll update this post with the chat log.
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Yurikuma
01[14:00] <Froborr> Wonder if the opening backstory will always be the same.
01[14:00] <Froborr> I’m guessing no.
[14:00] <@Sylocat> Probably for, like, the first few episodes, then we have a plot reveal as to what caused Kumalia to explode or something
[14:01] <Arrlaari> I’m pretty sure this is Theramin
01[14:01] <Froborr> Oh, definitely.
01[14:01] <Froborr> So, my picture’s glitching and I have no idea what’s going on.
01[14:01] <Froborr> I mean, even less idea what’s going on.
[14:01] <Arrlaari> Compression errors
[14:02] <Arrlaari> I think it happened to me last week, reloading should clear it up
[14:02] <Arrlaari> I have an ad mark that looks like it’ll be after OP
[14:02] <@Sylocat> Huh… my screen froze during the opening credits
01[14:02] <Froborr> It happened to me during the credits of the first ep of Penguindrum, and cleared up on its own.
[14:02] <@Sylocat> The audio is still playing though
01[14:02] <Froborr> I don’t want to reload because then I’ll have to watch another month of ads.
01[14:03] <Froborr> Anyway, it cleared up when the post credits ads started.
01[14:03] <Froborr> Speaking of, ads after credits.
01[14:03] <Froborr> 110 seconds of ads remaining.
[14:04] <Arrlaari> I’ll pause after they end
[14:04] <@Sylocat> Might be a bit of a wait for me… my crappy connection means the ads keep skipping
01[14:04] <Froborr> Wait, it failed to load the next ad, so 110 remaining again.
01[14:04] <Froborr> Dear Hulu: I hate you forever.
[14:04] <@Sylocat> Yeesh
01[14:06] <Froborr> OMFG it’s an ad for a fucking psychic.
[14:06] <@Sylocat> What?
01[14:06] <Froborr> Back.
[14:06] <@Sylocat> You’re kidding
[14:06] <@Sylocat> Okay…
[14:06] <@Sylocat> Click
[14:06] <Arrlaari> I got an ad for a diabetes medication and half the runtime was warnings about how it can kill you
01[14:06] <Froborr> And still glitched, fuck, I’m going to have to reload.
[14:06] <Arrlaari> paused again
01[14:07] <Froborr> More ads.
01[14:07] <Froborr> *burns the world*
[14:08] <@Sylocat> Still paused after the OP… lemme know when you’re back
01[14:08] <Froborr> I am now paused after the OP.
[14:08] <Arrlaari> I ran only a few seconds after the OP before repausing
[14:09] <Arrlaari> I can like, count to two
01[14:09] <Froborr> So… we restarting?
[14:09] <@Sylocat> Click
01[14:10] <Froborr> Seriously, cute lesbian is dead ALREADY. THat’s like a record or something.
[14:10] <@Sylocat> So, the two character classifications here are “Lesbian humans” and “Lesbian bears?”
01[14:10] <Froborr> Wait, does dark-haired girl know about the bears? I mean she must based on her reaction, but how?
[14:11] <Arrlaari> She saw them at th eend of last episode
01[14:11] <Froborr> Oh, okay.
[14:11] <Arrlaari> They repreated that specific scene before the OP
01[14:11] <Froborr> Yeah, but that’s when everything was glitching for me.
[14:11] <@Sylocat> Aww
[14:12] <@Sylocat> Now, correct me if I’m wrong, but we haven’t actually seen a corpse yet?
[14:12] <@Sylocat> This has to be a metaphor for something
01[14:12] <Froborr> Apparently not.
[14:12] <@Sylocat> Wow
[14:13] <@Sylocat> Mitsuko looks, and acts, eerily like Homura Akemi
[14:14] <@Sylocat> Ikuhara has a thing for spirals
01[14:14] <Froborr> Wow, that’s, um, explicit.
[14:14] <@Sylocat> The love-as-magic mechanics of this show are weird even for anime
01[14:15] <Froborr> And definitely got a theme going here: “Stay in the closet or the Invisible Storm will get you.”
[14:15] <@Sylocat> I wonder if the endgame is the humans and bears teaming up to fight the Invisible Storm, whatever that is
[14:16] <@Sylocat> Of course, that assumes that I’m capable of figuring out ahead of time what all the symbolism is supposed to be implying
[14:16] <@Sylocat> Now THERE’s a line…
[14:16] <@Sylocat> Is Mitsuko going to warn Kureha that those two girls are bears?
01[14:17] <Froborr> Given that she was just warned not to stick her neck out, I’m guessing no.
[14:17] <@Sylocat> Ah, of course… they’re being pitted against each other
[14:18] <@Sylocat> Oh! Looks like she is!
01[14:18] <Froborr> Oh, huh, I guess she is after all.
[14:19] <Arrlaari> Ads on the ad break logo
01[14:19] <Froborr> Likewise.
[14:19] <@Sylocat> Seems like Kureha should have figured that out on her own, but oh well… she’s distracted by grief
[14:19] <Arrlaari> paused after ads
[14:20] <@Sylocat> As am I, now
01[14:21] <Froborr> 44 seconds.
01[14:21] <Froborr> Paused after ads.
[14:22] <@Sylocat> Okay… Click
[14:22] <@Sylocat> So, Mitsuko sticks her neck out and rescues Kureha, and now the Invisible Storm is going to come after her?
01[14:23] <Froborr> In the time it takes to say “I don’t have time to talk” you could have said “They’re bears!”
[14:23] <@Sylocat> This again?
01[14:24] <Froborr> I have a feeling this is this series’ version of climbing to the Dueling Arena.
[14:24] <@Sylocat> So far, IIRC, Mr. Disembodied Voice is the only male character in the show
01[14:24] <Froborr> I think so.
[14:24] <@Sylocat> Uh oh… is Mitsuko’s girlfriend next?
01[14:24] <Froborr> Wait, Mitsuko’s girlfriend is a bear?
[14:25] <@Sylocat> In retrospect, it was pretty obvious she was going to die… she was just too pure and innocent
[14:26] <@Sylocat> What is it with Ikuhara and spiral staircases?
[14:26] <@Sylocat> I noticed that in episode 2 of Penguindrum too
01[14:26] <Froborr> Its spirals in general–notice the leaves, the repeated references to ammonites in Utena…
01[14:27] <Froborr> Ad.
[14:27] <@Sylocat> Same here
[14:27] <Arrlaari> same
[14:27] <@Sylocat> Yeah, Ikuhara has a thing about spirals… and he also appears to have something about stairs, so naturally the twain shall meet
01[14:27] <Froborr> Spirals are often a symbol of time, because they both repeat and progress.
[14:27] <@Sylocat> Whoa, ad over already… paused.
01[14:28] <Froborr> They also can be a path from inner to outer world or vice versa.
[14:28] <Arrlaari> ad over, paused
01[14:28] <Froborr> And of course stairs are a classic liminal space.
01[14:29] <Froborr> It occurs to me that one could make a case for ads as liminal spaces, and the “Sorry, we couldn’t load an ad so we’re punishing you with extra  time” even moreso.
01[14:29] <Froborr> SUPERFOODS AREN’T A THING, AD!
01[14:29] <Froborr> Paused after ads.
[14:29] <@Sylocat> Heck, Ikuhara (and Urobuchi) could probably get some major symbolism out of that
[14:30] <@Sylocat> Okay… click
[14:30] <@Sylocat> Ah, back to the Kangaroo… er, I mean, Bear Court
[14:31] <@Sylocat> So this is the equivalent of the shadow puppets from Utena
01[14:31] <Froborr> Oh right, disembodied voice isn’t the only male character, there’s also the prosecutor and judge.
01[14:31] <Froborr> Though I think the judge might be the disembodied voice.
[14:31] <@Sylocat> Right, I forgot about that
[14:31] <Arrlaari> I believe the defense is a boy as well
01[14:31] <Froborr> That is quite possible.
[14:32] <@Sylocat> Whoa, headshot
[14:32] <@Sylocat> I was not expecting that
01[14:33] <Froborr> A tight huge with rifles in the middle would be pretty uncomfortable, methinks.
01[14:33] <Froborr> *hug
[14:33] <@Sylocat> Well, this is Kureha and Mitsuko we’re talking about
[14:34] <@Sylocat> Whoa
[14:34] <@Sylocat> Mitsuko is a bear too?
[14:34] <Arrlaari> There were two bears on the roof.
01[14:34] <Froborr> Is anyone in this show NOT a bear?
01[14:34] <Froborr> Is the bear-human distinction even meaningful?
[14:35] <@Sylocat> Something tells me the answer is “no” to that question
[14:35] <Arrlaari> I think that sound effect over the ending title card is the first note of the ED
[14:35] <@Sylocat> To the second one, anyway
[14:36] <@Sylocat> So, I think I can reasonably say “This show is weird even for Ikuhara”
01[14:36] <Froborr> Yes.
[14:37] <@Sylocat> Also, which of the two bears on the roof just got killed? The redhead?
01[14:37] <Froborr> The freckly one.
01[14:37] <Froborr> The one that warned Mitsuko.
[14:37] <@Sylocat> Ah yes
01[14:37] <Froborr> Which is neither of the two people we knew were bears from the start.
[14:37] <@Sylocat> Ah… right…
[14:38] <@Sylocat> So Mitsuko has gone renegade from the bears?
01[14:38] <Froborr> Possibly?
01[14:38] <Froborr> Or it’s a Man Who Was Thursday situation.
[14:38] <Arrlaari> Man Who Was Thursday?
01[14:39] <Froborr> Novel about a police officer infiltrating an anarchist cell. Turns out every member of the cell is an infiltrating police officer, there are no anarchists.
[14:40] <@Sylocat> I gotta read that one sometime
01[14:41] <Froborr> So, other thoughts or move on to Penguindrum?
[14:41] <@Sylocat> Something tells me this is the kind of show where I should resist the temptation to speculate on what’s going to happen next… at least for a while
[14:41] <Arrlaari> So far, there’s been a lot of discussion in the show about being invisible or not – whether to become invisible is a decision important to characters presented as humand and characters presented as bears alike.
[14:41] <@Sylocat> Well yeah, it’s definitely a metaphor for the closet
[14:42] <Arrlaari> And something called “the invisible storm” is a threat to anyone who choses not to be invisible.
01[14:43] <Froborr> Indeed. And the show seems to be treating bears and lesbians as effectively interchangeable and equivalent.
[14:43] <Arrlaari> What about Sumika and Kureha?
[14:44] <@Sylocat> Sumika presumably represented youthful innocence, so she had to go
01[14:44] <Froborr> I would be a bit disappointed, but not surprised, if Kureha turned out to be a bear.
[14:44] <@Sylocat> I assume at least one or two characters is going to turn out to be a bear and not know it
[14:45] <@Sylocat> Either that, or everyone is a bear and doesn’t know it
01[14:46] <Froborr> Humans are extinct, it’s bears all the way down.
[14:46] <@Sylocat> Or maybe it’s just the girls at that school who are all bears without knowing it
[14:46] <@Sylocat> I guess we’ll see
01[14:46] <Froborr> But given this is Ikuhara, the most likely thing IMO is that bears and humans are not actually discrete categories.
[14:47] <@Sylocat> That’s my guess as well
Penguindrum
[14:50] <@Sylocat> Ringo’s having a flashback?
01[14:50] <Froborr> New cold open. Underwater?
[14:51] <Arrlaari> Compression artifacting here
[14:51] <@Sylocat> Huh… I’d already guessed each one would have a different opening monologue, but I’d assumed they’d all involve fate in some way
01[14:51] <Froborr> Here too.
[14:51] <Arrlaari> There was underwater imagery over Ringo when she was lying in the crawlspace under the house of the teacher she’s stalking
01[14:52] <Froborr> It occurs to me that we haven’t even seen most of the characters in the OP.
01[14:53] <Froborr> Ad.
[14:53] <Arrlaari> artifacting continues after ads, reloading
[14:53] <@Sylocat> Now, Yurikuma is only 12 episodes, but Penguindrum is longer, right?
[14:53] <@Sylocat> Or is it the other way around?
01[14:54] <Froborr> Penguindrum is the longer one.
[14:54] <@Sylocat> Thought so
[14:54] <Arrlaari> Hulu informs me this show is 24 episodes
[14:55] <@Sylocat> (dang it… hold on a sec)
[14:55] <Arrlaari> paused after ads
[14:56] <Arrlaari> Reloading put me where I was without replaying ads, but rewinding (to see the couple seconds I missed post OP) caused the ads to run
01[14:56] <Froborr> Paused after ads.
[14:58] <@Sylocat> Okay, sorry about that
[14:58] <@Sylocat> Click
01[14:59] <Froborr> Oh, there’s the stars.
[14:59] <@Sylocat> Yeesh, no wonder Ringo’s so messed up
[14:59] <@Sylocat> I’d be desperate for affection too
[15:00] <@Sylocat> Ah, I wondered if the name “Ringo” was meaningful
[15:00] <@Sylocat> I keep mistaking these sequences for an opening song until I remember we’ve already seen it
01[15:01] <Froborr> Same here.
[15:01] <@Sylocat> Then again, maybe that’s the idea
[15:02] <@Sylocat> Are they trying some weird psychological trick on the hat? I mean, they can’t seriously not believe that this is magical
[15:02] <@Sylocat> Uh…
[15:03] <@Sylocat> They had to know the hat wouldn’t take this well
01[15:03] <Froborr> Alien hat doesn’t play around.
[15:03] <Arrlaari> Well, it plays for one round
[15:04] <@Sylocat> I’m starting to favor your theory that the hat doesn’t know what “Penguindrum” is either
[15:05] <@Sylocat> What the…
01[15:05] <Froborr> Pork!? In CURRY!?
01[15:05] <Froborr> She’s going to have a massive shrine to the teacher in there, isn’t she?
[15:06] <@Sylocat> #1 is learning why you don’t eat strange foods in that quantity
01[15:07] <Froborr> I am fairly sure that something as complex as curry wasn’t the first cooked food.
[15:08] <@Sylocat> Well, Ringo is probably speaking in metaphors here… I hope
[15:08] <@Sylocat> I wonder if Penguindrum is going to turn out to be like the Keys in MLP S4? Like, it’s powerful because of the emotions we attach to it?
[15:09] <@Sylocat> Uh oh
[15:09] <@Sylocat> Hey, I recognize that turtle
[15:09] <Arrlaari> Ad
01[15:09] <Froborr> Ad.
[15:10] <Arrlaari> And it looks like the future diary informed her that they would be there
[15:10] <Arrlaari> wow ad over
01[15:10] <Froborr> Why do I have the sudden feeling that partway through the series, we’ll hit a junction on the subway map, adn then switch to an entirely other set of characters on another “track”?
[15:11] <@Sylocat> Ad still going here… because my lousy connection makes it choppy
01[15:11] <Froborr> Also, I remain unconvinced that the diary is magic. It could just be her plans, and she believes writing them down makes them guaranteed. She is clearly not well, after all.
01[15:11] <Froborr> And I’ve still got ads because Hulu hates me.
[15:12] <@Sylocat> Okay, ads finally over…
[15:12] <Arrlaari> It’s because you’re in a region that’s more densely populated and thus more valuable to advertisers
01[15:12] <Froborr> …huh.
[15:13] <Arrlaari> That’s my inference, anyway.
01[15:13] <Froborr> Paused after ads.
[15:13] <@Sylocat> Okay… click
[15:14] <@Sylocat> No one’s ever brought food on a subway before?
01[15:14] <Froborr> Suddenly thinking of the times I’ve brought a crockpot full of chili on the subway.
[15:14] <@Sylocat> Fun fact, in Malaysia you are legally prohibited from carying durians on the subway
01[15:14] <Froborr> Haha!
[15:15] <@Sylocat> Wait, does he reciprocate her affections, or is he just an oblivious moron?
01[15:15] <Froborr> He’s her teacher, isn’t he?
[15:15] <Arrlaari> He teaches at an entirely different school\
01[15:15] <Froborr> Oh.
01[15:15] <Froborr> Then yeah, oblivious.
[15:15] <@Sylocat> Oh.
[15:15] <@Sylocat> Dream sequence
01[15:16] <Froborr> Oh.
[15:16] <Arrlaari> Or maybe he also teaches at her school?
[15:16] <@Sylocat> So, how badly is she going to take this?
01[15:16] <Froborr> Yep, he is her teacher.
01[15:16] <Froborr> There’s going to be murder, isn’t there.
[15:17] <Arrlaari> Or, she guessed wrong
[15:17] <@Sylocat> Oh yikes
01[15:18] <Froborr> “Fabulous max”?
[15:18] <@Sylocat> What the…
[15:19] <@Sylocat> Wait, so the cat can see the penguin too?
01[15:19] <Froborr> Oh, cats can always see the invisible and the otherworldly.
[15:19] <Arrlaari> Ad starting
[15:19] <@Sylocat> True
01[15:19] <Froborr> Ad.
[15:20] <Arrlaari> paused after ad
[15:21] <@Sylocat> Same
01[15:22] <Froborr> 30 seconds left, glarb
[15:22] <@Sylocat> Yeesh
01[15:23] <Froborr> paused after ads
[15:23] <@Sylocat> Okay… click
01[15:24] <Froborr> Himari’s about to bring Ringo home with her, isn’t she.
[15:24] <@Sylocat> Have they asked the hat what the Penguindrum is?
[15:24] <@Sylocat> Yep, Ringo’s right there
[15:25] <@Sylocat> She makes friends easily
01[15:26] <Froborr> Yeah, the book is just a plan.
[15:26] <@Sylocat> Could this actually be psychologically helpful for Ringo?
01[15:27] <Froborr> Or… okay, the cat part is… huh.
01[15:28] <Froborr> Maybe the book is magic. Or she has some kind of foreknowledge, anyway.
[15:28] <Arrlaari> Like most prophesies, it’s got vagueness in just the right places to trick the recipient
[15:30] <@Sylocat> Indeed
[15:32] <Arrlaari> Ringo mentioned a project that was moving forward. Perhaps our first hint as to the origins of the destiny diary.
01[15:33] <Froborr> I assumed the project was the stalking?
[15:33] <Arrlaari> I have to apply medicine to the cat’s food. I’ll be back in a bit.
[15:33] <Arrlaari> It could be. But it could also be one of Ikuhara’s Significant Words
[15:36] <@Sylocat> So…
01[15:38] <Froborr> Yep. ANy other comments before I copy up?
[15:38] <@Sylocat> I am feeling a powerful curiosity to see where this is going
[15:39] <@Sylocat> Apart from that… I got nuthin’ at the moment

Yurikuma Arashi 1 and Mawaru Penguindrum 2 Liveblog Chat Thingy!

How to participate in the liveblog chat:  Option 1: Whenever you watch the episode, comment on this post as you watch with whatever responses you feel like posting! Option 2: Go to http://webchat.freenode.net/. Enter a nickname, then for the Channels field enter ##rabbitcube, and finally fill in the Captcha and hit Connect! We’ll be watching Yurikuma and commenting there starting at 2:00 p.m. EST. We will then be watching Mawaru Penguindrum at 2:30.

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