MLPFIM S7E7-8 Liveblog Chat Thingy!

Actually doing it this time!
How to participate in the liveblog chat:  Option 1: Whenever you watch the episodes, comment on this post as you watch with whatever responses you feel like posting! Option 2: Go to Enter a nickname, then for the Channels field enter ##rabbitcube, and finally fill in the Captcha and hit Connect! We’ll be watching MLP there starting at 1:00 p.m. EST. This is one hour before the usual time.
Afterwards, I’ll update this post with the chatlog.
ETA: Chatlog below the cut!

Ep. 7

[13:05] <mere_oblivion> I’m still not there.
[13:05] <Sylocat> Huh?
[13:05] <Sylocat> What could possibly go wrong…
[13:05] <mere_oblivion> Well, i’m at the new site but there’s an ad and it’s frozen
[13:06] <Sylocat> Oh dear
[13:06] <Sylocat> Re-sync at end of credits?
[13:06] <Froborr_> Sounds like a plan.
[13:07] <Froborr_> Paused at 2:06.
[13:07] <Sylocat> Well… this episode is gonna change a whole lotta headcanons
[13:07] <Sylocat> paused at 2:06
[13:07] <Whammy_> Also paused
[13:08] <Froborr_> I dunno, that *could* be an older version of “Rainbow Dad” from that one flashback in… S3? S4?
[13:09] <Sylocat> True
[13:09] <mere_oblivion> Okay, i’m finally in the ep. I’ll let you know when i get to 2:06
[13:12] <mere_oblivion> Now i’ve jumped to 13:35. Maybe y’all should go on w/o me?
[13:12] <Sylocat> Can you try and jump back to 2:06?
[13:14] <mere_oblivion> I’m starting over in a new window. . . . This is working, sort of; I’m at the credits. Won’t let me jump ahead
[13:14] <mere_oblivion> Okay, I’m at 2:06
[13:14] <Sylocat> *whew* Okay then…
[13:14] <Sylocat> Click
[13:14] <Whammy_> -clicks-
[13:14] <Whammy_> -screaming starts-
[13:14] <Whammy_> Glad not wearing headphones….
[13:14] <mere_oblivion> Yikes!
[13:15] <mere_oblivion> She just shattered my Princess Celestia eardrums
[13:15] <Sylocat> Hahahah
[13:15] <Froborr_> laundry day, lol
[13:16] <Sylocat> Maybe Pegasi who live that high up do need to wear more clothes
[13:16] <Sylocat> A WHAT.
[13:16] <Whammy_> Pasta, potato salad sandwich
[13:16] <Whammy_> Something like that
[13:16] <mere_oblivion> Carbo loading
[13:16] <Whammy_> Basically just hook up carbs to your veins
[13:16] <Froborr_> Pasta and potato salad on sourdough.
[13:16] <Froborr_> Sounds good, actually.
[13:17] <Whammy_> Can we stop with the screaming please
[13:17] <Sylocat> Preemptive earplugging, they learn quick
[13:17] <mere_oblivion> Ad, for a truly disgusting-looking TNT show
[13:17] <Sylocat> …Has she been back since after she adopted Tank?
[13:17] <Arrlaari> This might be a little bit too indulgent of a Fan who just showed up out of the clear blue sky
[13:17] <Froborr_> Ahahahaha
[13:18] <Froborr_> The sound effects.
[13:18] <Whammy_> I’d like to install sound effects on my doors
[13:18] <Sylocat> Oh dear
[13:18] <mere_oblivion> Back from ad, and vomiting
[13:19] <Sylocat> Oh… didn’t see you’d hit an ad. Paused at 6:33
[13:19] <mere_oblivion> Thanks. I’m almost there
[13:20] <mere_oblivion> Okay, i’m at 6:33
[13:20] <Froborr_> Paused at 6:33.
[13:20] <Sylocat> Okay… Click
[13:20] <Sylocat> Oh… here we go
[13:20] <Sylocat> Scootaloo got the hang of that quick!
[13:21] <Whammy_> That’s some great lung power if they can create turbulence.
[13:21] <Sylocat> Even with the megaphones, that’s an achievement
[13:22] <Sylocat> “Mooooooooooom, you’re embarrraaaaaassing meeeeee”
[13:22] <mere_oblivion> So . . . this is why RD kept it a secret?
[13:23] <Froborr_> He’s full of liquid pride.
[13:25] <mere_oblivion> Ad. At least this time it’s Matt Tabibi instead of a plug for a show aimed at people who think Trump & Co are way too intellectual
[13:25] <Sylocat> Uh oh
[13:25] <Sylocat> Paused at 11:35
[13:25] <mere_oblivion> Back
[13:25] <Sylocat> …That was fast
[13:25] <Sylocat> Click
[13:25] <Sylocat> Hmm, are they foreshadowing a Lightning Dust return?
[13:25] <Sylocat> Ooh, I loved that episode!
[13:26] <Froborr_> Oh, was that the Rarity noir episode?
[13:26] <Whammy_> Yeah
[13:26] <Sylocat> Yeah… one of my faves
[13:26] <Sylocat> WAT
[13:26] <Sylocat> Oh yikes, she dyed her coat and mane
[13:26] <Sylocat> That’s the equivalent of face paint in Equestria, I guess
[13:27] <Whammy_> It’s a hat and vest I think
[13:27] <Whammy_> Security apparently terrible at these events
[13:27] <Sylocat> So, is Dash going to wind up bonding with the other Wonderbolts about how embarrassing her folks are?
[13:27] <mere_oblivion> Their shouting is as insufferable as Scootaroo’s screaming
[13:28] <Sylocat> Whoa
[13:28] <Whammy_> Does this place have any security?
[13:29] <mere_oblivion> Dash is currently bonding with ME over how awful her folks are
[13:29] <Sylocat> Oh yikes
[13:29] <Whammy_> At least part of me feels it a little justified, at least with the fireworks…
[13:30] <Sylocat> Indeed
[13:30] <Whammy_> Serious safety issue
[13:30] <Arrlaari> Seriously Scootaloo
[13:31] <Sylocat> Oh… so they went there
[13:31] <Sylocat> Well, it’s a better and more accurate message than “Participation trophies make kids soft and spoiled,”
[13:31] <Whammy_> Yeah.
[13:31] <Froborr_> Oh shit, they went THERE.
[13:32] <Sylocat> (but, were participation trophies even actually a thing?)
[13:32] <Froborr_> Sylo: Yes, for about six months in 1988.
[13:32] <Whammy_> Also, yeah, I take this as confirmation Scootaloo’s an orphan.
[13:32] <Whammy_> Or at least has a terrible home life.
[13:32] <Sylocat> Headcanon confirmed!
[13:33] <Froborr_> Yeah, that’s what I meant by the all-caps “THERE”
[13:34] <Whammy_> I mean, I might like it more if they did a story centered around it instead of just implying it as just a note in someone else’s story, but still.
[13:34] <mere_oblivion> I think I’ll remember this as the all-Mute button ep.
[13:34] <Sylocat> Aww, the other Wonderbolts help her out here
[13:35] <Sylocat> AHAHAHAHAH
[13:35] <Sylocat> I should have seen that coming, but I didn’t
[13:35] <Whammy_> Boo Cheerilee
[13:35] <Froborr_> D’awwww
[13:35] <Whammy_> ..okay, maybe some points off for the moldy sandwich
[13:35] <Sylocat> Yeah, you have to preserve those, Scootaloo!


Ep 8
[13:42] <Whammy_> -settles in for lots of “uggggghs”
[13:42] <Sylocat> I saw the thumbnail too
[13:43] <Whammy_> I watched the episode when it went live in Canada
[13:44] <Whammy_> Oh, okay, they skipped the intro
[13:44] <Sylocat> Going in Style, Pony version
[13:44] <mere_oblivion> Excellent!
[13:44] <Sylocat> (I still gotta see the remake of that)
[13:44] <Froborr_> “spyrate”
[13:46] <Arrlaari> They know one spy
[13:46] <Arrlaari> but they don’t know that because she’s like, good at being a spy
[13:46] <mere_oblivion> Good point
[13:46] <Whammy_> All the apples
[13:46] <Sylocat> Apple turnovers! I still have a box of those in the freezer
[13:46] <mere_oblivion> Not poisoned, i hope
[13:47] <Sylocat> I’m surprised Big Mac would ever dare trust them with that info
[13:48] <Whammy_> Especially after, as they mentioned, the love potion stuff
[13:49] <Sylocat> …Oh.
[13:49] <Whammy_> Yep
[13:49] <Froborr_> Ahem: ugggggghhhhhhhhhh
[13:49] <mere_oblivion> Is this one leading up to a polyamorous relationship?
[13:49] <Whammy_> Eeyup
[13:49] <Whammy_> Er, no, no it is not oblivion
[13:49] <Sylocat> It should
[13:49] <mere_oblivion> Darn
[13:49] <Whammy_> -the Eeyup was for froborr-
[13:49] <Sylocat> But it won’t
[13:49] <Froborr_> I’m also guessing it’s not going for the Korra solution.
[13:49] <Whammy_> Also, Disney reference wtih those three girls apparently
[13:49] <mere_oblivion> Again, darn
[13:50] <Sylocat> Hey, a callback to 2 episodes ago
[13:50] <Sylocat> What could possibly go wrong
[13:51] <mere_oblivion> This is like something Bertie Wooster would dream up, but they don’t have a Jeeves to fix everything
[13:51] <Sylocat> It is, come to think of it
[13:51] <Sylocat> With similar success
[13:52] <Sylocat> wat
[13:52] <Sylocat> WAT
[13:52] <Whammy_> Nothing says romance like sexual assault
[13:52] <Sylocat> They’re telling him to pull a Tuxedo Mask
[13:53] <Froborr_> See, now that’s actually a slightly less terrible idea.
[13:53] <Sylocat> And now they’re actually trying to plan a fourth wall break
[13:54] <mere_oblivion> So a single episode can go in several wrong directions at once.
[13:54] <Sylocat> Indeed
[13:54] <Sylocat> Though seeing a Big Mac musical number is a silver lining
[13:54] <Whammy_> Wait a moment
[13:54] <mere_oblivion> True, Sylo
[13:54] <Sylocat> WAT
[13:55] <Sylocat> Who the heck are his backup dancers?
[13:55] <Whammy_> You spoke too soon
[13:56] <Sylocat> *headdesks*
[13:56] <Whammy_> I give him credit for being better at improving lyrcis though
[13:56] <Whammy_> Feather what’s his name
[13:56] <Froborr_> See, writing a song for her isn’t bad. Invading her space, imposing it on her, ignoring her obvious anger, not so much.
[13:56] <Sylocat> Yeah, this is going about as well as could reasonably be expected
[13:56] <Whammy_> And getting into a competition for her
[13:57] <Sylocat> Ewwwwww
[13:57] <Froborr_> Subjecting her to an embarrassing public spectacle, egh.
[13:57] <Whammy_> Yep
[13:57] <Whammy_> There’s a reason I basically summed up this episode as “The Straights ™ are at it again”
[13:58] <mere_oblivion> Uh huh
[13:58] <mere_oblivion> I’m patting myself on the back for making it through both these episodes.
[13:59] <Arrlaari> I did not make it through both these episodes
[13:59] <Whammy_> Entire episode extra annoying since the only time they make any reference to non-heterosexual relations was Lyra/BonBon…inthe form of a “gal pal” joke
[13:59] <mere_oblivion> Sort of like Interstellar but without the Dylan Thomas line repeated a dozen times
[13:59] <Froborr_> Oh god, and they’re going to completely fail to learn the actual lesson, aren’t they.
[13:59] <Arrlaari> I closed the window when the kids where plotting to put a woman in danger
[13:59] <Sylocat> They’re the CMCs, failing to learn lessons is kinda their thing
[14:00] <Froborr_> Yeah, except I don’t trust the show to *realize* they’ve failed to learn this one.
[14:00] <Froborr_> “Big Mac, you broke into my shop and made changes without asking my permission or input!”
[14:02] <Sylocat> …So, is he gonna wake up and see his fangirls?
[14:02] <Froborr_> …is that a pitch-shifted Aziz Ansari?
[14:02] <Sylocat> Okay, that was a funny line
[14:03] <Whammy_> Which line?
[14:03] <Sylocat> “I can mane flip and write poetry, but actually talking to a pony?” etc
[14:05] <Froborr_> It’s not Ansari, it’s Vincent Tong.
[14:05] <Sylocat> Ah, the voice of the dreaded Flash Sentry
[14:06] <Sylocat> (how appropriate)
[14:07] <mere_oblivion> Hey, I gotta run. Better luck next week!?
[14:07] <Sylocat> okay then
[14:07] <Froborr_> Bye mere!
[14:08] <Whammy_> By Oblivion
[14:08] <Whammy_> *bye
[14:08] <Froborr_> So yeah, that episode ended with “don’t try to ‘win’ another person with grand gestures, try to ‘win’ them with grand gestures!”
[14:08] <Froborr_> Blargh.
[14:09] <Whammy_> Yeah, it was not the best episode, and it’s doubly annoying with how the show goes out of its way to not have non-heterosexual romances at this point.
[14:10] <Whammy_> We’ve had two weddings and now two “Big Mac and romance episodes”, and both heterosexual
[14:10] <Whammy_> And only reference to a homosexual couple was gal pal jokes with Lyra/BonBon in the 100th episode special
[14:10] <Froborr_> Yeah, they’re really dropping the ball on that.
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[14:11] <Whammy_> Not really dropping the ball: that implies just messing up.
[14:11] <Whammy_> At this point it really has to be active decisions to do so.
[14:11] <Whammy_> Like, gal pal jokes don’t just “happen” =P
[14:12] <Froborr_> Yeah, point. It’s deliberate baiting.
[14:13] <Whammy_> Which, for a show that sold itself as a reinvention and with trappings of feminism, is really disappointing.
[14:13] <Whammy_> tldr; Steven Universe still best show on TV
[14:14] <Froborr_> Oh yeah, easily.
[14:15] <Whammy_> The thing that annoys me though is when I’ve brought up the shows issue in the past, people will jump on either “shows not about romance” (easily laughable at this point, ignores Rarity crush in season 1) or…point to Steven Magnet.
[14:15] <Whammy_> ..okay,like one guy argued Steven Magnet was gay representation, but just ugggh he was so obnoxious about it
[14:16] <Sylocat> Ah, finally found that piece I was looking for:
[14:17] <Sylocat> Er… wait, was that the one I was thinking of?
[14:18] <Froborr_> It doesn’t mention MLP at all, so probably not?
[14:18] <Whammy_> I have been meaning to do a piece on this with a friend of mine for like a year…I’m a terrible procrastinator/graduate student XD
[14:19] <Whammy_> But yeah, Steven Universe has upped the bar on LGBT+ experiences.
[14:19] <Whammy_> That MLP’s only mention has been gal pal jokes and that episode with Big Mac in a dress for Sister Hoof Social…yeah
[14:19] <Froborr_> And *keep upping it*, is the impressive thing. Have you seen the latest episodes?
[14:20] <Whammy_> I mean, I know some who used that episode to headcanon him as transgender or fluid or something, but. yeah.
[14:20] <Whammy_> And yes, I saw the latest episodes.
[14:20] <Froborr_> There’s a poly fusion now!
[14:20] <Whammy_> Even made comments on how I wanted the Pink Diamond stuff to work out.
[14:20] <Whammy_> -and reblogged lots of Blue Zircon fanart-
[14:21] <Whammy_> And yes ,everyone loves polyamorous grandma
[14:21] <Froborr_> I want Pearl to have killed her, personally.
[14:21] <Froborr_> But we’re drifting off-topic…
[14:21] <Whammy_> Yeah, I said I wanted a Pearl (whether Red Diamonds or our Pearl) to do it
[14:22] <Whammy_> You can find my post on Tumblr about it
[14:22] <Whammy_> But yeah, MLP, gotta step up your game.
[14:22] <Whammy_> *coughs* let Starlight and Trixie kiss *cough*
[14:22] <Froborr_> I don’t remember if I follow you or not… I think maybe I don’t because you post NSFW sometimes and I check Tumblr at work?
[14:22] <Froborr_> That might’ve been someone else.
[14:22] <Whammy_> Yeah, I don’t (knowingly at least) do anything NSFW
[14:23] <Whammy_> Heck, I got NSFW blacklisted =P
[14:27] <Froborr_> All right, anymore comments on the ep before I post up?
[14:28] <Whammy_> Nope. Other than this chocolate chip cookie dough ice cream sandwich on TV right now looks delicious
[14:28] <Whammy_> Using raw cookie dough for the buns
[14:28] <Sylocat> Raw cookie dough? With eggs and everything?
[14:29] <Froborr_> Ice cream cookie sandwiches *are* delicious, though I prefer using a still-warm, freshly baked cookie.
[14:29] <Whammy_> Pasturized eggs and heat treated flour so it’s safe to eat
[14:29] <Whammy_> It’s one of those stores that specialize in edible cookie dough

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