Psycho-Pass Season 1 Episodes 3 and 4 Liveblog Chat Thingy!

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ETA: Chatlog under the cut!

Psycho-Pass 3
[13:05] <@Sylocat> I like the music
[13:05] <mere_oblivion> So glad that’s not a sports shake he poured over his head
01[13:05] <Froborr> Hmm, will we be following our deuteragonist this episode?
[13:06] <mere_oblivion> Smoking after a workout–wait, now he’s completely not smoking anmore
[13:06] <@Sylocat> I’m having trouble telling the male characters apart
01[13:07] <Froborr> I’m pretty sure that’s the guy she shot in ep 1..?
[13:07] <mere_oblivion> Agreed
[13:07] <mere_oblivion> They make speedy recoveries
[13:07] <@Sylocat> Yeah… it’s also him in the opening credits here?
01[13:07] <Froborr> Yep.
01[13:07] <Froborr> Ad.
[13:07] <mere_oblivion> i gather he’ll be a bigger character than her boss
[13:07] <@Sylocat> Paused after credits
01[13:09] <Froborr> Back.
[13:09] <mere_oblivion> Back
[13:09] <@Sylocat> Click
[13:09] <@Sylocat> So, deliberate malice, or unsafe working conditions?
[13:10] <@Sylocat> Ah, only one manned area in the factory? Probably the former then
[13:10] <@Sylocat> Yeah, what about an outside hacker?
[13:10] <mere_oblivion> Does he EVER smiles?
[13:10] <mere_oblivion> or, for that matter, smile?
[13:11] <mere_oblivion> “I hope you’re not a fool”–he knows how to build people’s confidence
[13:11] <@Sylocat> Villain
[13:11] <@Sylocat> Or red herring. The way he stepped out of the shadows like that, we’re clearly meant to think he’s evil
[13:11] <mere_oblivion> Gee, they look cheerful
01[13:12] <Froborr> So not an outside hacker.
[13:12] <@Sylocat> Ah, a commentary on internet addiction
[13:13] <@Sylocat> Or maybe it’s a Ghost in the Machine thingy?
[13:17] <@Sylocat> Are they in the room that’s yellow because of the sunset?
[13:17] <@Sylocat> (or sunrise, whichever it is?)
01[13:17] <Froborr> Must be sunset, it was day when they arrived.
01[13:17] <Froborr> Though if it’s a holographic room…
[13:26] <@Sylocat> The workers all look alike, presumably as some commentary on the interchangeability of office drones?
[13:27] <@Sylocat> Yeah, he’s hiding something
[13:28] <@Sylocat> This is very relevant to Japan’s work culture
[13:28] <@Sylocat> (an A1 pictures animator recently died, and according to the hospital he’d been working 600 hours a month)
[13:28] <mere_oblivion> Sounds like Peter Jackson during the Hobbit fiasco
[13:29] <@Sylocat> Oh… wow, I hadn’t thought of this
01[13:29] <FroborrD> I was about to comment on how polar opposite it is to the attitude I normally encounter in government offices, where productivity is a VERY distant concern behind not breaking any rules, safety regulations included.
[13:29] <Arrlaari> ad
01[13:30] <FroborrD> Ad
[13:30] <mere_oblivion> Back already.
[13:30] <@Sylocat> Paused at 11:01
01[13:30] <FroborrD> I think I missed something while typing, what was it that cause you to say “I hadn’t thought about this” Sylor?
01[13:30] <FroborrD> *Sylo
[13:30] <@Sylocat> How the Dominators wouldn’t be able to get a Sibyl reading inside, if the factory was cut off from the network
[13:30] <mere_oblivion> Ah!
[13:31] <mere_oblivion> Are we pressing on?
01[13:31] <FroborrD> I’m still watching the ad.
[13:31] <mere_oblivion> OK
[13:31] <Arrlaari> paused after ad
01[13:31] <FroborrD> Back
[13:31] <@Sylocat> Click
[13:32] <@Sylocat> Whoa
[13:32] <Arrlaari> I bet that dude hasn’t provided his hue
[13:32] <@Sylocat> Wait, so the factory has its own private Psycho-Pass monitoring system?
[13:33] <@Sylocat> That seems a bit too easy to rig
01[13:33] <FroborrD> That’s fucked up.
[13:34] <@Sylocat> Yes, I imagine it would
[13:34] <@Sylocat> Huh?
01[13:35] <FroborrD> Ad.
[13:35] <mere_oblivion> Commercial
[13:35] <Arrlaari> ad
[13:36] <Arrlaari> I’m pretty sure the manager is setting up the bullying victim
01[13:36] <FroborrD> Probably.
[13:36] <Arrlaari> He’s the only one with the ability to block the regular transfer
[13:37] <Arrlaari> He’d also be in a position to do the patsy a favor after the murder
01[13:37] <FroborrD> On the other hand, this suggests a flaw in the system: if it measures stress, well, sometimes people use antisocial behavior or violence to releave stress.
[13:37] <Arrlaari> paused after ad
01[13:37] <FroborrD> Paused after ad.
[13:37] <mere_oblivion> I’m ready
[13:37] <@Sylocat> Click
[13:38] <@Sylocat> The time skips in this episode are weird
[13:38] <@Sylocat> Jeez
[13:39] <@Sylocat> Is he trying to raise his Criminal Coefficient to make a better case against him?
[13:40] <@Sylocat> Yeesh
[13:40] <mere_oblivion> So much for Mr Nice Enforcer
[13:40] <@Sylocat> Wait, did that disc say “Johnny Mnemonic” on it?
[13:40] <@Sylocat> Now THAT’S an obscure reference
[13:40] <mere_oblivion> I’ll say
[13:41] <mere_oblivion> He has a funny notion of happy ending
[13:41] <mere_oblivion> Run? Uh, yeah.
[13:41] <@Sylocat> Uh dude, there had to be a better way to do it than that…
[13:42] <mere_oblivion> He’s very . . . resourceful (the madman, I mean)
[13:42] <@Sylocat> Was it ever mentioned what these drones are actually used for? I forget
01[13:42] <FroborrD> Not that I recall.
[13:43] <mere_oblivion> Debugging something or other?
[13:43] <@Sylocat> So the Dominators have a special setting for taking out rogue machines?
[13:43] <mere_oblivion> Evidently
[13:43] <@Sylocat> That’s some unusually good foresight
01[13:44] <FroborrD> More likely hindsight, if this system’s been going for a few decades, as seems implied.
[13:44] <@Sylocat> Well, true
[13:45] <Arrlaari> The debugging is something humans do for the drones
[13:45] <mere_oblivion> Ah.
[13:45] <Arrlaari> The drones have metal cutters built into their hands, so they’re likely industrial equipment
01[13:45] <FroborrD> So yeah, like I was saying, we’re encountering a significant flaw in the system, which is that you can go somewhere where your stress level isn’t monitored, destress through violence, and then come back clear.
[13:46] <@Sylocat> Indeed… though from the sound of things, there are relatively few places where stress level isn’t monitored
[13:46] <mere_oblivion> Key points both.
Psycho-Pass 4
[13:48] <@Sylocat> Now there’s an opening line
[13:48] <@Sylocat> The heck is going on here?
[13:48] <mere_oblivion> I’m at sea as well
[13:48] <@Sylocat> Is this some kind of talk show thingy?
01[13:49] <FroborrD> Some kind of Second Life-esque talkshow?
[13:49] <@Sylocat> Ah, an anonymous therapy show with an audience
[13:49] <mere_oblivion> In her dreams she gets to go into therapy?
[13:49] <@Sylocat> Where everyone is expected to use the “I have this friend who…” framing device for their stories
[13:49] <mere_oblivion> Looks like a few therapists I’ve known
[13:49] <@Sylocat> I love the character design on this guy
[13:50] <@Sylocat> Oh, he’s a Head And Hands boss
[13:50] <mere_oblivion> Whew
[13:50] <@Sylocat> Yep, it’s the VR equivalent of a radio advice show
[13:50] <mere_oblivion> No less useful than the real ones.
01[13:51] <FroborrD> Well, it’d be hard to be LESS useful than the real ones.
[13:51] <mere_oblivion> True!
[13:51] <@Sylocat> I wonder if Talisman is an extension of Sibyl
[13:52] <mere_oblivion> Ah-hah!
[13:52] <Arrlaari> post credi tad
01[13:52] <FroborrD> Ad.
01[13:52] <FroborrD> I’d say very likely, Sylo.
[13:53] <Arrlaari> paused after ad
01[13:53] <FroborrD> Back.
[13:53] <@Sylocat> Okay then…
[13:53] <@Sylocat> Click
[13:54] <@Sylocat> So, he just told her to put Kogami on a leash?
[13:54] <mere_oblivion> Kogami stared into the abyss too long? I thought he was always this way.
01[13:54] <FroborrD> Of COURSE they quote Nietzsche.
[13:54] <@Sylocat> Ahahah… quoting Nietzsche, the ultimate Edgelord
[13:55] <@Sylocat> Is that an excuse not to have him in the bulk of this episode, or…?
[13:55] <mere_oblivion> No Japanese person would go two hours w/o reporting a broken toilet. (Openly racist bit of nonsense.)
[13:56] <@Sylocat> Which one’s Hayama?
[13:56] <mere_oblivion> Getting killed is easier than disappearing.” Can’t argue with that (or can we?)
[13:56] <@Sylocat> Was that the suspect they were just discussing?
[13:57] <mere_oblivion> It’s The Case of the Second Stain!
[13:57] <@Sylocat> Ooh, clever VR forensics here
[13:57] <Arrlaari> Speculation: the enforcer used to be an observer, and the white haired rival we don’t know much about is the enforcer he was working with when he “stared into the abyss”
01[13:57] <FroborrD> Seems likely.
[13:58] <@Sylocat> Someone they know?
[13:58] <@Sylocat> Oh!
01[13:58] <FroborrD> Ah, well, that answers that.
[13:58] <@Sylocat> So that’s who he was!
[13:58] <@Sylocat> I was not expecting that
[13:59] <@Sylocat> Uh oh, now they’re going to all see what she said, because they’ll be looking at his chat logs?
[14:00] <@Sylocat> I’m surprised that they call it a horror story; you’d think Ghost-in-the-Shell-style scenarios would be pretty common in an era of instantaneous full-brain scans
[14:00] <@Sylocat> Ahahah… his avatar is a talking quarter
[14:00] <mere_oblivion> He was being comically hyperbolic?
[14:00] <mere_oblivion> Spooky Boogie!?
[14:01] <@Sylocat> They katakana-ized “Spooky Boogie.” I love it
[14:01] <mere_oblivion> That coin says “LIVERTY”
[14:01] <@Sylocat> Anarchists? Is that an official political party these days?
[14:01] <mere_oblivion> Ad
[14:01] <@Sylocat> Maybe the actual coin’s design was copyrighted, so he has to use a parody avatar?
01[14:01] <FroborrD> Ad.
[14:01] <Arrlaari> ad
[14:01] <@Sylocat> Paused at 12:02
01[14:02] <FroborrD> Or creating an accurate image of money is considered counterfeiting.
[14:02] <mere_oblivion> I’d forgotten that, but they’re awfully strict about it
[14:02] <Arrlaari> I doubt an accurate picture of a coin would cause troublle
01[14:03] <FroborrD> In a world with holograms? I dunno.
[14:03] <Arrlaari> Also, turning a B into a V is plausibly a product of the way katakana transliterates
01[14:03] <FroborrD> True.
01[14:03] <FroborrD> Anyway, back.
[14:03] <mere_oblivion> I wondered if it was a “translation” thing too.
[14:03] <mere_oblivion> Back
[14:04] <Arrlaari> paused after ad
[14:04] <@Sylocat> Click
[14:04] <@Sylocat> Ooh, pretty flowers
[14:04] <@Sylocat> This episode reminds me of Summer Wars
01[14:04] <FroborrD> I was thinking the same thing!
[14:04] <mere_oblivion> Hey, yeah.
[14:04] <@Sylocat> Oh dear, she’s gone viral
[14:06] <@Sylocat> This is a great commentary on internet social dynamics
[14:07] <@Sylocat> “Holo-cosplay.” Of course that’s a thing these days. Awesome
[14:07] <@Sylocat> You no longer need to be constrained by budget or the laws of physics
[14:08] <@Sylocat> Hm…
[14:09] <mere_oblivion> Wasn’t that another strange time leap?
[14:09] <mere_oblivion> She said it would be”on the 4th” and now it’s happening.
[14:09] <@Sylocat> Is she going to use her internet-meme status to get social pull in here?
[14:09] <@Sylocat> …Are we supposed to know who this guy is?
01[14:09] <FroborrD> Is it that strange? We transititioned from the characters planning to the event they’re planning, that’s pretty common for crime shows and proceduralas.
01[14:09] <FroborrD> *procedurals.
[14:10] <mere_oblivion> True. I don’t watch enuf of those.
[14:10] <@Sylocat> Uh oh…
[14:10] <@Sylocat> (lol… mom said “Uh oh” at literally the exact instant I typed it)
[14:10] <Arrlaari> the detectives panicked
[14:10] <Arrlaari> and blew the case
[14:11] <@Sylocat> Only knockout rounds so far, right?
01[14:11] <FroborrD> Ad.
[14:11] <Arrlaari> ad
[14:12] <@Sylocat> Paused at 19:33
[14:12] <Arrlaari> They really should have let the situation play out instead of acting rashly and burning Akane’s contact
[14:13] <Arrlaari> paused after ad
[14:13] <mere_oblivion> ready
[14:13] <@Sylocat> It seemed a bit abrupt to establish right then that there were commercially-available scanners that could detect when someone carrying a Dominator enters a building
[14:13] <Arrlaari> I suspect that the club owner got it special given he’s involved in shady stuff
[14:13] <@Sylocat> Well, true
01[14:13] <FroborrD> Back.
[14:13] <@Sylocat> Okay then…
[14:13] <@Sylocat> Click
[14:14] <@Sylocat> So, is this a riff on the Persona series?
[14:15] <@Sylocat> Ahahaha… that’s what she looks like IRL?
01[14:15] <FroborrD> Is it?
[14:15] <@Sylocat> WHOA
[14:15] <Arrlaari> Spooky boogie’s operator is a target for murder
[14:15] <@Sylocat> Yeesh
[14:15] <mere_oblivion> Orwell!
[14:15] <@Sylocat> What Orwell book was that?
[14:15] <@Sylocat> I saw the author name but missed the title
01[14:15] <FroborrD> 1984
[14:15] <@Sylocat> Uh… okay…
[14:16] <mere_oblivion> A trifle on-the-nose?
[14:16] <@Sylocat> I think that episode could have used a bit more exposition re: internet culture in this future society
01[14:16] <FroborrD> Just a bit.
01[14:16] <FroborrD> (That was in response to this being on the nose)
01[14:17] <FroborrD> As for exposition, well, this appears to be the beginning of a longer arc, so.
[14:17] <@Sylocat> True
[14:17] <mere_oblivion> Maybe they’ve got more up their sleeve where Orwell’s concerned.

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