Yurikuma Arashi 8 and MLPFIM S5E2 Liveblog Chat Thingy!

How to participate in the liveblog chat:  Option 1: Whenever you watch the episode, comment on this post as you watch with whatever responses you feel like posting! Option 2: Go to http://webchat.freenode.net/. Enter a nickname, then for the Channels field enter ##rabbitcube, and finally fill in the Captcha and hit Connect! We’ll be watching Yurikuma and commenting there starting at 1:00 p.m. EST. We will then be watching MLP at 1:30. Those are one hour earlier than normal!

I will update with the chatlog after the chat.
ETA: Chatlog below the cut!

Yurikuma Arashi
[13:07] <@Sylocat> They didn’t do the “We hated you from the beginning…” opening?
[13:08] <@Sylocat> Oh dear
01[13:08] <Froborr> Dun dun dun
[13:08] <@Sylocat> Was it established that Ginko killed Kureha’s mom?
[13:08] <@Sylocat> I didn’t remember that
01[13:08] <Froborr> I don’t think it was, but left implied by her possession of the pendant.
[13:09] <Arrlaari> The teacher told her that the bear who killed her mother has her mother’s pendant
[13:09] <@Sylocat> Ah… I thought Kureha gave her the pendant in a flashback
01[13:09] <Froborr> ad
[13:09] <@Sylocat> Ad
[13:10] <Arrlaari> ad
[13:10] <Arrlaari> Bear, swordsfighting movie or maybe show,
[13:10] <@Sylocat> What does “J’ai something besutoi” mean?
[13:10] <@Sylocat> Ad over
[13:10] <Arrlaari> paused after ads
[13:10] <@Sylocat> Paused
01[13:11] <Froborr> I still have a minute of ads left because Hulu hates me.
[13:11] <@Sylocat> Ouch
01[13:11] <Froborr> back
[13:11] <@Sylocat> Okay
[13:11] <@Sylocat> Click
[13:11] <@Sylocat> 20 years ago?
[13:12] <@Sylocat> Whoa… first male human character?
[13:12] <@Sylocat> A little late to be introducing a new villain
[13:13] <@Sylocat> This is creepy
01[13:13] <Froborr> Nah, he’s the same villain we’ve had all along. Male Gaze.
[13:13] <Arrlaari> Use of male pronouns for that character may have been a translator’s error.
[13:13] <@Sylocat> Good point…
[13:14] <@Sylocat> So here we have our retread of Utena’s fear-of-growing-up theme
[13:15] <Arrlaari> “Open up your box and show me your precious things”
[13:15] <@Sylocat> Was THAT a translator error, or deliberate?
[13:15] <@Sylocat> I mean, was that line “open your box and show me your precious things” just as suggestive in the original Japanese?
01[13:15] <Froborr> I’m guessing probably yes.
[13:16] <@Sylocat> Wait, the girls are 17?
01[13:17] <Froborr> “Babies are the purest things in this world.” Sure, pure ASSHOLES.
[13:17] <@Sylocat> Eeyup
01[13:19] <Froborr> Okay, yeah, the empty box thing is CLEARLY as suggestive in Japanese. I mean come on now.
[13:19] <@Sylocat> Oh… yikes
01[13:19] <Froborr> Oh. Of course. Of COURSE the principal is the one who killed the mother.
01[13:20] <Froborr> Ad.
[13:20] <@Sylocat> Ad
01[13:20] <Froborr> back
[13:20] <@Sylocat> Huh. The ad glitched out and I’m paused after it
[13:20] <Arrlaari> paused after ad
[13:20] <@Sylocat> Okay…
[13:20] <@Sylocat> Click
[13:22] <@Sylocat> I keep forgetting that Kureha didn’t know they were bears
[13:23] <@Sylocat> “In picture books?” Didn’t they actually share one?
[13:24] <@Sylocat> The one thing we still don’t know is what caused the Kumalia thing
[13:24] <@Sylocat> Oh… the judges are talking to Yuriika now?
[13:26] <@Sylocat> “The space between human and bear?”
[13:26] <@Sylocat> This just furthers our theory that there really isn’t a difference
[13:26] <Arrlaari> Within the wall of severance, or at the moment on top of it
[13:26] <@Sylocat> Oh… they meant PHYSICALLY
[13:26] <Arrlaari> They always begin their calls “this is a challenge from the wall of severance”
[13:27] <@Sylocat> Huh, I’d forgotten that
01[13:27] <Froborr> Ad.
[13:27] <Arrlaari> ad
[13:27] <@Sylocat> Likewise
01[13:28] <Froborr> back
[13:28] <@Sylocat> Wait, has there always been a “close ad and return to video” option on Hulu?
[13:28] <Arrlaari> video failed
[13:28] <@Sylocat> Ah… shall we wait for you to reload?
01[13:28] <Froborr> I’ve never gotten one.
[13:28] <Arrlaari> I still hear sound but no picture
[13:29] <Arrlaari> reloading, sadly
01[13:29] <Froborr> I am paused at 17:49.
[13:29] <@Sylocat> I’m paused at 17:49
[13:29] <@Sylocat> Jinx
[13:31] <Arrlaari> paused at 17:49
[13:31] <@Sylocat> Alrighty then…
[13:31] <@Sylocat> Click
[13:31] <@Sylocat> Why isn’t Ginko defending herself?
01[13:31] <Froborr> Ginko’s behavior here makes zero sense to me.
[13:33] <@Sylocat> Where did those spotlights come from?
[13:33] <@Sylocat> Oh dear… Ginko, you’re not helping your case here
[13:34] <@Sylocat> Bears that literally eat humans might not make the best metaphor for a discriminated-against minority
[13:34] <@Sylocat> D’aww
01[13:34] <Froborr> I mean, death here is pretty clearly a metaphor for social exclusion.
[13:34] <@Sylocat> Well, true
[13:35] <@Sylocat> (it’s barely even a metaphor, they’re basically synonymous)
01[13:35] <Froborr> Well, yeah, because Ikuhara. The symbol is the thing.
[13:35] <@Sylocat> True
[13:35] <@Sylocat> Uh oh
[13:35] <@Sylocat> Lulu, stop helping
01[13:36] <Froborr> When Ikuhara has people imposing restraint, Utena is the vehicle by which Anthy escapes Ohtori, but it’s Anthy in the driver’s seat. When he doesn’t, Utena turns into a car and Anthy drives her to freedom.
[13:36] <@Sylocat> Ooh, clever choice to not have dialogue here
01[13:36] <Froborr> Dammit Lulu
[13:37] <@Sylocat> Wow
[13:37] <@Sylocat> And they still have four episodes to go
01[13:38] <Froborr> Yeah.
01[13:38] <Froborr> I increasingly see what my friend was saying about how despite initial appearances, Yurikuma is actually more straightforward than Penguindrum.
[13:39] <@Sylocat> True… it helps that it’s shorter, so they have to make its thematics more concise as well
01[13:40] <Froborr> Okay, I’ma make some tea before mlp.
[13:40] <Arrlaari> What do you two believe Ginko did to Sumika that everyone on the roof agrees was a grave crime?
[13:41] <@Sylocat> I thought it was established that Ginko and Lulu killed Sumika
[13:41] <@Sylocat> I mean, it technically happened off-panel, but we heard the chomping, IIRC
[13:42] <Arrlaari> There is the matter of the other bear who claimed responsibility. Do you believe she was lying?
[13:42] <@Sylocat> (oh, I found a link for the MLP ep after the one we watched https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvE4SEGCUjA )
[13:42] <@Sylocat> Ah, good point, I’d forgotten about Yurizono
[13:43] <@Sylocat> (I remember her name because I remember asking, “What’s the Homura lookalike’s name?”)
[13:44] <@Sylocat> I’ll have to watch Yurikuma again (which I probably would have done anyway)
01[13:47] <Froborr> Back, sorry about that.
01[13:48] <Froborr> Yeah, I don’t see what it could be other than killing Sumika.
[13:48] <Arrlaari> I had forgotten, but just now looked up, there was a flashback to Sumika’s murder at the end of episode 6 in which we do see that it was in fact Yurizono who ate Sumika
[13:48] <@Sylocat> Really?
[13:48] <@Sylocat> Huh
01[13:48] <Froborr> Huh.
[13:48] <@Sylocat> I guess we’ll find out
[13:49] <@Sylocat> Maybe they had some role in getting the evil classmates to toss Sumika to the Invisible Storm?
01[13:49] <Froborr> That’s the only other thing I can see that would provoke that reaction.
[13:50] <@Sylocat> Yeah… I guess we’ll find out
[13:50] <Arrlaari> The Definitely Not Christmas episode
01[13:50] <Froborr> Oh ffs ANOTHER Christmas episode?
[13:50] <@Sylocat> Eeyup
01[13:51] <Froborr> *burns world*
01[13:51] <Froborr> *again*
[13:51] <@Sylocat> Dolls?
[13:51] <@Sylocat> On the plus side, this presumably means more Maud
[13:51] <@Sylocat> Hey, my family always opens the presents at midnight
[13:52] <@Sylocat> Well, so it’s about different traditions for the same holiday?
[13:52] <Arrlaari> Different traditions for The Holiday
[13:52] <@Sylocat> That’s slightly less obnoxious than most Not!Christmas episodes
[13:53] <@Sylocat> Were those the characters from Planes, Trains and Automobiles?
[13:53] <@Sylocat> I think I caught a background reference
01[13:53] <Froborr> Okay, this is admittedly pretty cute.
[13:54] <@Sylocat> …Is this for the benefit of kids who might not have been watching way back during season two?
01[13:54] <Froborr> Presumably, yes.
[13:54] <@Sylocat> Yeah, this is about the conflicts between the traditions
[13:55] <@Sylocat> Culture shock, and all that
01[13:55] <Froborr> Yep, it’ll turn out that those things are different in tiny details.
[13:55] <@Sylocat> “Rooftastic?”
[13:55] <@Sylocat> Sounds a little too much like… no, I won’t make a dirty joke
[13:55] <@Sylocat> Octopinkie returns
[13:55] <@Sylocat> MAUD!
01[13:55] <Froborr> THE BEST CHARACTER IS HERE
01[13:55] <Froborr> ALL HAIL MAUD
01[13:55] <Froborr> ALL IS FORGIVEN
[13:56] <@Sylocat> And she’s doing a Sherlock scan!
[13:56] <Arrlaari> She’s the one who really likes rocks?
[13:56] <@Sylocat> Ooh, crystally
[13:56] <@Sylocat> Oh wow
[13:56] <@Sylocat> What…
01[13:57] <Froborr> Wow, they really are pony amish.
[13:57] <@Sylocat> Wow
[13:57] <@Sylocat> The whole family
[13:57] <@Sylocat> …Poor Marble
01[13:57] <Froborr> Huh, Pinkie’s a twin.
[13:58] <@Sylocat> So, Pinkie has one shy sister, one cranky sister, and one Maud sister
[13:58] <Arrlaari> rock soup?
[13:59] <@Sylocat> Why is “The Big Rock Candy Mountains” running through my head right now
[13:59] <@Sylocat> Good thing Rarity’s not here to see this
[13:59] <@Sylocat> Wait, is it Stone Soup? Stone Soup is really good
[14:00] <@Sylocat> What’s with the dolls? Is that a Christmas tradition I don’t know about?
[14:00] <@Sylocat> WHOA
01[14:00] <Froborr> No, I think it’s just something ponies do.
[14:00] <@Sylocat> Pinkie finished hers faster than Maud did?
[14:01] <@Sylocat> Wha…
[14:01] <@Sylocat> Did I just see a blush exchanged between Big McIntosh and Marble?
[14:01] <Arrlaari> Holder’s Boulder has got to be a Scary Egg
01[14:01] <Froborr> Yes, yes you did.
[14:02] <@Sylocat> Two episodes in a row with scavenger hunts?
[14:02] <@Sylocat> Awwwww
[14:02] <@Sylocat> …Whoa
[14:02] <@Sylocat> This show is touching on arranged marriages?
[14:03] <@Sylocat> Maud and Apple Bloom
01[14:03] <Froborr> D’aww, I alike how everyone else is learning to get along while Pinkie and Apple get on each other’s nerves.
[14:04] <@Sylocat> Oh dear… what are they planning?
[14:04] <@Sylocat> Hmm…
[14:05] <Arrlaari> Applejack went off on her own and is probably in a lot of trouble
[14:05] <@Sylocat> Eeyup
[14:05] <@Sylocat> Well… on a metatextual level, I’m glad they’re acknowledging that holiday family gatherings can be incredibly awkward
[14:06] <@Sylocat> WHAT
[14:06] <@Sylocat> Oh…
01[14:06] <Froborr> MAUD ILU
[14:06] <@Sylocat> Yikes
[14:07] <@Sylocat> Heh… well, the Pinkie-Applejack episode from season four showed the seamy side of the Family Road Trip, now they’re doing the same for the holiday family reunion
01[14:08] <Froborr> I also really, really like that “she meant well” was not accepted as an excuse, and “it’s not that I want to impose my ways on them, it’s just that I want them to see my ways are BETTER” is shown to be the crap it is.
[14:08] <Arrlaari> That boulder is 100% an egg
01[14:09] <Froborr> Yeah, it clearly is.
[14:09] <@Sylocat> I wonder what’s going to hatch from it
[14:09] <Arrlaari> Well, they just told us it was found in a dragon’s nest
[14:09] <@Sylocat> Even Maud can’t shift it?
[14:10] <@Sylocat> Yeah, this is an egg
[14:10] <@Sylocat> Wait, is it not going to hatch in this episode? Is this foreshadowing?
[14:11] <@Sylocat> Oh, Pinkie Pie… ruining their moment
[14:11] <@Sylocat> Oh boy…
[14:12] <@Sylocat> “Hearth’s Warming is great, like Calcium Silicate.”
01[14:12] <Froborr> MAUD
01[14:12] <Froborr> Yeah, that was okay.
01[14:12] <Froborr> Needs more Maud.
[14:12] <@Sylocat> Whoa, I’m at the voice cast. Ingrid Nilson did all three sisters’ voices?
[14:13] <@Sylocat> That’s quite a range.
01[14:13] <Froborr> Indeed.
[14:13] <@Sylocat> Yeah, it was tolerable… certainly loads better than most Christmas specials
[14:14] <@Sylocat> (incidentally, this aired two weeks ago, which means it aired before the Halloween episode
[14:14] <@Sylocat> )

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