Penguindrum 7 and MLPFIM S5E17 Liveblog Chat Thingy! (Take Two)

How to participate in the liveblog chat:  Option 1: Whenever you watch the episode, comment on this post as you watch with whatever responses you feel like posting! Option 2: Go to Enter a nickname, then for the Channels field enter ##rabbitcube, and finally fill in the Captcha and hit Connect! We’ll be watching Penguindrum and commenting there starting at 1:00 p.m. EST. We will then be watching MLP at 1:30. Those are one hour earlier than usual!
I will update this post with the chatlog after we’re finished.

[13:00] <@Sylocat> If we’d known about Ringo’s motivation earlier, I would have been far more favorably disposed to this subplot
[13:01] <@Sylocat> Those stuffed animals are creepy
[13:01] <@Sylocat> AHAHAHAH
[13:01] <Froborr> lol
[13:02] <@Sylocat> We still haven’t met pink-haired, have we?
[13:03] <Froborr> Not that I recall, no.
[13:03] <@Sylocat> Ad
[13:03] <Froborr> Same.
[13:03] <@Sylocat> So, are we just going to have a one-week lag on MLP from here on?
[13:03] <Froborr> Re: Pink-hair: But we’re only about a quarter of the way through the series.
[13:04] <Froborr> Yeah, I think it’ll help finding videos.
[13:04] <@Sylocat> True… Yurikuma is a short series, but this one is longer
[13:04] <@Sylocat> Good point
[13:04] <Froborr> Back.
[13:04] <@Sylocat> 30 seconds left for me
[13:05] <@Sylocat> Back
[13:05] <@Sylocat> And… click
[13:05] <@Sylocat> Is he really that oblivious?
[13:05] <Froborr> I’m guessing the play is the one with his girlfriend in it, and she gave the ticekts.
[13:05] <Froborr> Yepp.
[13:06] <@Sylocat> Who am I kidding, of course he’s that oblivious
[13:06] <@Sylocat> Nice sparkle effects on the dress
[13:06] <@Sylocat> (the theatre’s costume designer must hate the lighting designer, though)
[13:07] <@Sylocat> Uh oh… the way to his heart is through his tear ducts
[13:07] <@Sylocat> Uh… what is…
[13:07] <Froborr> Is it a musical?
[13:07] <@Sylocat> Ahahah… apparently so
[13:07] <@Sylocat> (I THINK this is diegetic… and the display of the title was just a meta-gag)
[13:08] <Froborr> I think so too.
[13:09] <@Sylocat> What the… who was that with her?
[13:09] <@Sylocat> He looks like he belongs on the Ohtori Student Council
[13:09] <Froborr> Haha, just a fan I think, but probably a reference too.
[13:09] <Froborr> Maybe another actor?
[13:09] <@Sylocat> Ah, I forgot, Yuki knows about Ringo’s motives
[13:10] <@Sylocat> (I mean, they’re pretty obvious to anyone who isn’t as boneheaded as Tabuki)
[13:10] <Froborr> Pretty much, yeah.
[13:10] <@Sylocat> Uh…
[13:10] <@Sylocat> “Oh, Mr. Smearcase, that’s my knee!”
[13:10] <Froborr> Oh, another Ringo fantasy sequence. Wow, this one’s, uh…
[13:11] <@Sylocat> I… wha…
[13:11] <Froborr> lol, “fabulous max”
[13:11] <@Sylocat> Ringo’s grasp of Katakana is… interesting
[13:11] <@Sylocat> I assume Blue Oniichan and Ringo are going to end up together
[13:12] <Froborr> Certainly seems headed in that direction.
[13:12] <@Sylocat> So this is some commentary on the tendency of people to fit people around them into story roles
[13:13] <Froborr> Okay, I think that guy is supposed to be her manager.
[13:13] <@Sylocat> I’m surprised they didn’t show a Ringo reaction shot to the “my love” line
[13:13] <Froborr> And yeah, that seems to be what’s going on here. Which is unsurprising, given how much of a theme that’s been in Ikuhara’s past work.
[13:13] <@Sylocat> Huh?
[13:13] <@Sylocat> Oh…
[13:13] <@Sylocat> Wait, what?
[13:13] <@Sylocat> She’s quitting acting?
[13:14] <@Sylocat> Ah, so he IS a fellow actor
[13:14] <Froborr> I have heard that in Japan it is quite common for women to quit working when they marry
[13:14] <Froborr> Ad
[13:14] <@Sylocat> Ad
[13:15] <@Sylocat> Well, it was still considered the norm until fairly recently over here
[13:15] <@Sylocat> (and even nowadays it’s still a common stereotype)
[13:15] <Froborr> True.
[13:16] <@Sylocat> Paused after ads
[13:16] <Froborr> Back.
[13:16] <@Sylocat> Okay… Click
[13:17] <@Sylocat> So, IIRC, our current theory is, the Penguin hat is Ringo’s dead sister?
[13:17] <@Sylocat> I love the ads that play on the subway
[13:17] <Froborr> Yeah, they’ve often contained great foreshadowing.
[13:18] <@Sylocat> Wha… who is that?
[13:18] <Froborr> Aw, and redhair brother is involved in something shady to do with that penguin logo, which also involved his dad.
[13:18] <Froborr> And also involves princess curls girl.
[13:18] <@Sylocat> Who also has a Dark Penguin
[13:18] <@Sylocat> What the…
[13:19] <@Sylocat> What in the world is she going to…
[13:19] <@Sylocat> AHAHAH…
[13:19] <@Sylocat> This is like a brutal parody of a hentai
[13:20] <Froborr> Yes, it is, this is hilarious.
[13:20] <Froborr> Wow, that’s really hot.
[13:20] <@Sylocat> 42 celsius? Ouch
[13:20] <Froborr> Tempurature wise I mean. Not… hentai-parody wise.
[13:21] <@Sylocat> And they even pixelated it out!
[13:21] <Froborr> Hahaha
[13:21] <@Sylocat> Wait, they’re an ingredient in the Penguindrum?
[13:21] <@Sylocat> Ad
[13:21] <Froborr> Ad.
[13:21] <@Sylocat> The ad placements in this one are bizarre
[13:23] <@Sylocat> Paused after ad
[13:23] <Froborr> Likewise.
[13:24] <@Sylocat> Click
[13:24] <@Sylocat> Oh, another summit with the hat?
[13:25] <@Sylocat> So, the penguin ate the frog eggs because they were an ingredient or something, right?
[13:25] <@Sylocat> Not just to create a plot twist?
[13:25] <@Sylocat> Oh… the hat DOES want Project M to succeed?
[13:26] <@Sylocat> Yikes, Red Oniichan is turning dark
[13:26] <Froborr> Yeah, wow.
[13:26] <Froborr> They’re… going to attempt a honeypot with a middle-schooler? That’s not okay.
[13:27] <@Sylocat> Is she a middle schooler? She looks older
[13:27] <@Sylocat> I thought she was about their age
[13:27] <Froborr> Maybe high school
[13:27] <Froborr> Still WAY TOO YOUNG
[13:27] <@Sylocat> I mean, it’s still wrong, but…
[13:27] <@Sylocat> Yeah, this is another Utena reference
[13:28] <@Sylocat> Also, “Bréban Dynasty?”
[13:28] <Froborr> No idea
[13:28] <@Sylocat> Oh yikes, she wants him to…
[13:28] <@Sylocat> Don’t tell me their unborn KID is the Penguindrum?
[13:28] <@Sylocat> Oh wait, is Ringo’s sister going to use that kid as a vessel for rebirth?
[13:28] <Froborr> Could be, could be.
[13:29] <Froborr> Seems a little straightforward though.
[13:29] <Froborr> Plus it would require Ringo to actually succeed here, which I don’t see hapepning.
[13:29] <@Sylocat> Right… I just meant, is that the hat’s plan
[13:29] <@Sylocat> (I somehow doubt whatever the hat’s plan is will succeed)
[13:30] <Froborr> Ah. Maybe? Still seems too straightforward though.
[13:30] <@Sylocat> You’re probably right
[13:33] <@Sylocat> So, for a while I thought Dark Penguin Girl was one of the Leage of Not-Evil Exes, because I kept seeing them together, but was that just because she was picking them off/erasing their memories?
[13:34] <Froborr> Hmm, good question. I’d assumed she was one of them, but maybe she isn’t?
[13:34] <Froborr> She knows Red Oniichan from ssomewhere though.
[13:34] <@Sylocat> And somehow erasing their memories of him is helping to keep them on track?
[13:34] <@Sylocat> Well, I guess we’ll find out…
[13:35] <@Sylocat> A bowling pin?
[13:35] <@Sylocat> This season has been way more continuity-heavy
[13:36] <@Sylocat> (expected, since Larson is apparently head writer now)
[13:36] <@Sylocat> Aw, Big Macintosh likes cute things. He reminds me of Sakaki, come to think of it
[13:36] <Froborr> Yeah, actually.
[13:36] == mere_oblivion has joined ##rabbitcube
[13:36] <@Sylocat> Ah… welcome
[13:37] <Froborr> Though I think that particular scene was more about him wanting to be closer to Apple Bloom.
[13:37] <@Sylocat> True
[13:37] <@Sylocat> Shall we start over? We were only 2 minutes in
[13:37] <mere_oblivion> At long last . . . Got caught up in a real-estate thing . . .Oh, thanks for the link!
[13:38] <@Sylocat> Click?
[13:38] <mere_oblivion> If you dont mind terribly. I’m all set to click.
[13:38] <@Sylocat> Click, then
[13:38] <mere_oblivion> Actually, no I’m not cause there’s a commercial — 5 secs to go
[13:38] <mere_oblivion> Okay, click!
[13:38] <@Sylocat> (sorry about this, Froborr)
[13:39] <Froborr> NP
[13:39] <mere_oblivion> Indeed, Froborr
[13:39] <@Sylocat> Granny Smith is about as organized as I am
[13:40] <@Sylocat> So, the title implies this is a Big Macintosh episode
[13:40] <@Sylocat> (I was just mentioning that Big Macintosh reminds me of Sakaki, from Azumanga Daioh… he’s big, tough-loooking, quiet, but likes cute things)
[13:41] <Froborr> Had to reload, let me know when you’re at end of the OP?
[13:41] <@Sylocat> We’re already past that
[13:41] <mere_oblivion> I’m at 2:57. Paue?
[13:41] <mere_oblivion> Pause?
[13:41] <@Sylocat> Sure
[13:41] <Froborr> Yes please.
[13:41] <Froborr> I’ll let you know when I’m at 257?
[13:42] <@Sylocat> Alrighty then
[13:42] <mere_oblivion> Good ah-deer!
[13:42] <Froborr> Okay, paused at 2:57.
[13:42] <mere_oblivion> Click?
[13:42] <@Sylocat> Okay… Click
[13:42] <@Sylocat> Aww
[13:43] <mere_oblivion> Unrequited l-u-v?!?
[13:43] <mere_oblivion> Are we gonna get to hear him say more than one syllable?
[13:44] <@Sylocat> Ah yes, this was a parallel episode
[13:44] <@Sylocat> Ah, is Big Macintosh going to enter in her stead?
[13:44] <@Sylocat> That’s what the title implies
[13:44] <Froborr> Given the title, most likely.
[13:44] <Froborr> Apple Bloom borrowing a Rarity line?
[13:45] <Froborr> She probably got it from Sweetie Belle.
[13:45] <@Sylocat> Or from Scootaloo, with the “awesomeness” line
[13:45] <@Sylocat> Ah, Big Mac doing a Discord impression!
[13:45] <mere_oblivion> Oops, I’ve got a commercial again
[13:45] <@Sylocat> Where are you pauseD?
[13:46] <Froborr> I’m at 6:00
[13:46] <mere_oblivion> I’m back at 5:10 and running
[13:46] <@Sylocat> 5:10?
[13:46] <mere_oblivion> Indeed
[13:46] <@Sylocat> I’m at around 6:10
[13:46] <mere_oblivion> Can you pause? I’m at 5:50 now
[13:46] <@Sylocat> Alrighty then
[13:46] <Froborr> How about we all synch back up at 6:10?
[13:46] <@Sylocat> Works for me
[13:47] <mere_oblivion> I’m there!
[13:47] <Froborr> Okay, 6:10 now.
[13:47] <@Sylocat> Click
[13:47] <@Sylocat> Eeyup, Big Mac’s gonna enter
[13:47] <mere_oblivion> Big Mac is looking  . . . devious?
[13:48] <@Sylocat> Oh don’t tell me he’s in disguise
[13:48] <@Sylocat> GAH
[13:48] <Froborr> What.
[13:48] <@Sylocat> What in the name of…
[13:48] <mere_oblivion> Is that Dame Edna?
[13:49] <@Sylocat> Oh jeez
[13:49] <@Sylocat> Are they going to fool anyone at all?
[13:50] <@Sylocat> I think that’s a no
[13:50] <@Sylocat> AHAHAHAH…. “just because you’re a stallion.” A reversal
[13:50] <mere_oblivion> So no one will mistake him for a “full-figured gal”?
[13:50] <Froborr> Yeah, that was good.
[13:51] <Froborr> But I am not enjoying the whole “man in a dress = funny” trope, is this the 60s?
[13:52] <Froborr> Yeah, but Big Mac is a professional singer, remember?
[13:52] <mere_oblivion> Well, the record looks more like it’s from the 40’s.
[13:52] <Froborr> The guy working the record player is GLARING at them.
[13:52] <Froborr> I’ve never seen that much hatred in a pony’s eyes.
[13:53] <@Sylocat> Yikes
[13:53] <@Sylocat> Bobby Parker all over again
[13:53] <mere_oblivion> Maybe we’re spose to see thru the drag=funny to grasp that a guy can wish for sisterhood?
[13:54] <@Sylocat> Stallions can’t jump?
[13:54] <Froborr> I’m stalled out buffering at 13:10.
[13:54] <mere_oblivion> Are they the equine equivalent of white men?
[13:54] <mere_oblivion> Pause?
[13:55] <@Sylocat> I’m at 13:53
[13:55] <Froborr> Please.
[13:55] <mere_oblivion> I’m at 13:55.
[13:55] <mere_oblivion> And Paused
[13:56] <Froborr> 13:55 and paused.
[13:56] <@Sylocat> Okay… Click
[13:56] <mere_oblivion> click
[13:57] <Froborr> Ad.
[13:57] <Froborr> Sorry.
[13:57] <mere_oblivion> Paused
[13:57] <@Sylocat> It’s the kind of week we’re having
[13:57] <Froborr> Paused at 15:00.
[13:58] <Froborr> You there?
[13:58] <@Sylocat> Yeah
[13:58] <mere_oblivion> Now I’ve got that stinkin Subaru ad too.
[13:58] <mere_oblivion> Okay, back
[13:58] <Froborr> Okay, let’s all sync wherever mere_oblivion is after the ad.
[13:58] <@Sylocat> Are you at 15:00 as well?
[13:59] <mere_oblivion> I’m at 15:12
[13:59] <mere_oblivion> And running
[13:59] <@Sylocat> Okay then… playing ’til then
[13:59] <Froborr> Paused at 15:12.
[13:59] <mere_oblivion> is Big Mac belching?
[13:59] <mere_oblivion> My Pause ain’t even working no mo’
[13:59] <@Sylocat> That’s ONE way to finish an obstacle course
[14:00] <mere_oblivion> I’m at 16:00 and running
[14:00] <@Sylocat> I think we should just accept we’re not gonna be synced
[14:00] <@Sylocat> (only a few minutes left anyway)
[14:00] <mere_oblivion> Good idea
[14:00] <@Sylocat> A wine-pressing event?
[14:00] <Froborr> Yeah, that was in the previous one too.
[14:00] <@Sylocat> Is that a healthy message for the foals?
[14:00] <@Sylocat> Huh, I forgot about that one
[14:01] <@Sylocat> The heck?
[14:01] <mere_oblivion> I must say I’m more impressed than I thought I’d be.
[14:02] <mere_oblivion> “Loose definition of sister” sounds fairly okay to me.
[14:03] <@Sylocat> Okay… that “they were disqualified for poor sportsmanship, not for breaking the gender barrier” thing was… somewhat mitigating, I guess
[14:03] <Froborr> Indeed.
[14:04] <mere_oblivion> Man, when Big Mac gets talking he don’t let up!
[14:05] <Froborr> Awww.
[14:05] <@Sylocat> So, it’s about how it’s important for men to get in touch with their feelings as well
[14:05] <mere_oblivion> Yeah, that’s . . . nice
[14:06] <mere_oblivion> Kind of a long way round to it, but that’s okay too
[14:06] <@Sylocat> Well, that wasn’t nearly as bad as it looked like it was going to be for a while
[14:06] <Froborr> Yeah.
[14:06] <Froborr> Problematic in the “hmm, there are some problems here that could stand to be discussed” sense rather than the “I don’t want to say ‘bigot'” sense.
[14:07] <mere_oblivion> Who wrote this one, again? (i didn’t notice)
[14:07] <@Sylocat> Polsky
[14:07] <Froborr> Polsky.
[14:07] <@Sylocat> (because of course it was Polsky)
[14:07] <mere_oblivion> Mm-hmm.
[14:07] <@Sylocat> I kid, I kid… Polsky got way better during S4
[14:08] <mere_oblivion> You always were kind of a kidder.
[14:08] <Froborr> He did, but still, it isn’t at all surprising that he’d stumble in exactly the way this episode did.
[14:09] <@Sylocat> Yeah… he’s not exactly reliable
[14:09] <@Sylocat> Welp, I should get to rehearsal… Benvolio awaits
[14:10] <Froborr> And I have a ton of procrastinating to get through this weekend.
[14:10] <mere_oblivion> Say hey to Verona for me. (It’s one beautiful town, by the way! The one in Italy, not the suburb of Madison.)
[14:10] <@Sylocat> A’ight, see y’all laters
[14:10] <Froborr> Later!
[14:10] <mere_oblivion> A ton of procrastinating to get through: excellent! As MT said, Never put off till tomorrow what you can put off till the next day.

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