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ETA: Chatlog below the cut!
01[14:03] <Froborr> Different bear?
[14:03] <Arrlaari> Lulu is the not-leader bear
[14:03] <Arrlaari> From the pair of main bears.
[14:03] <Sylocat> Is the opening monologue different? I know the graphics are
01[14:04] <Froborr> Oh, is this a Lulu-focused episode?
[14:04] <Sylocat> Give up on love OR give up on kisses? How does that work?
01[14:05] <Froborr> Romantic asexuals are a thing.
[14:05] <Arrlaari> ad
01[14:05] <Froborr> Alternatively, she was being offered a choice between giving up on the love she can’t have or forever loving her from afar.
01[14:06] <Froborr> Which seems plausible as Lulu clearly is quite devoted to Ginko, but Ginko is only interested in devouring Kureha.
01[14:06] <Froborr> (Did I get names right? Have I finally learned characters’ names!?)
[14:06] <Arrlaari> Yeah, those are the names of the characters you’re talking about
[14:07] <Sylocat> And how does Yurizono fit into all this again? Lulu and Ringo don’t like her, IIRC
01[14:08] <Froborr> I think she’s a bear who infiltrated before them, and is competition?
01[14:08] <Froborr> *isn’t sure*
[14:08] <Sylocat> At first I thought it was a “No one eats Kureha but us” thing, but at the end of the last episode they seemed to actually care about her
[14:08] <Arrlaari> Two, Yurizono and the one whose name I forget, Yurizono shot her when she tried to eat Kureha
[14:09] <Arrlaari> ad over, paused
[14:09] <Sylocat> Same here, now
[14:10] <Arrlaari> The one whose name I forgot repeatedly said “gesu” so I think of her as Gesu Girl
01[14:11] <Froborr> Are we continuing?
[14:11] <Sylocat> Ready?
[14:11] <Arrlaari> I’m ready
01[14:11] <Froborr> Yeah, I don’t have ads, so it’s just the two of you.
[14:11] <Sylocat> Oh right, you don’t have ads… I forgot
[14:11] <Sylocat> Okay… click
[14:11] <Sylocat> So the judges are in bear form now
[14:11] <Sylocat> …The hell?
01[14:12] <Froborr> Shit, I think I just figured something out about the court.
[14:12] <Sylocat> Which is?
[14:13] <Sylocat> I reiterate… the hell?
01[14:13] <Froborr> The prosecution is Cool. We’re talking abotu middle schoolers. Cool = Social Acceptability.
[14:13] <Sylocat> Ah… good point
01[14:13] <Froborr> This court is a direct parallel to the Invisible Storm.
[14:14] <Sylocat> …?
01[14:15] <Froborr> Life Sexy’s singing is the funniest thing in this show so far.
[14:15] <Sylocat> Is this one of Ikuhara’s “backstory fable that is as true as everything else in the show, IE, fictional but meaningful” like he did all the time in Utena?
01[14:15] <Froborr> I dunno, so far it just seems like straightforward backstory.
[14:15] <Arrlaari> ad
[14:16] <Sylocat> Huh… for some reason the ad didn’t play for me
[14:16] <Sylocat> I’m paused at 7:40 in
[14:16] <Arrlaari> In Utena there was an unsurreal facade over the surreal goings on, in this show there’s no facade, surrealism is just the way things are.
01[14:17] <Froborr> So yeah, the Invisible Storm judges and excludes girls who don’t fit in–who don’t meet the standards of what’s cool. The Court of Severance seems to do the same for bears.
[14:17] <Sylocat> Is there some lingo in Japan where “bear-ishness” is the equivalent of “cattinesss” over here? That would make the allegory make a whole lot more sense
[14:18] <Arrlaari> ad over, paused
[14:18] <Arrlaari> Before we resume
01[14:18] <Froborr> I have a theory on why bears, but it’s only half-formed.
[14:18] <Sylocat> Alright… Arlaari, what time are you paused at?
[14:18] <Arrlaari> I’d like to point out that royal succession often did lead to intense interfamily rivalry and even warfare
[14:18] <Arrlaari> 7:29
01[14:19] <Froborr> Has to do with the difference between how cartoon bears are depicted from how people react to real life bears.
01[14:19] <Froborr> And paralleling that with super-cutesy yuri-anime vs. social rejection of actual lesbians.
[14:19] <Sylocat> Okay… I’ve backtracked to 7:29… everyone ready?
01[14:19] <Froborr> Yep.
[14:19] <Sylocat> Click
[14:19] <Sylocat> That does make sense, Froborr…
[14:20] <Sylocat> Did Lulu’s little brother grow up to be one of the court officials?
01[14:20] <Froborr> He DOES look a bit like Life Cute.
[14:20] <Sylocat> Oh… she got rid of him?
01[14:21] <Froborr> Okay, that’s definitely a callback to Nanami and the cat.
[14:21] <Sylocat> Yikes
[14:21] <Sylocat> But of course he’s not going to go down that easily
[14:22] <Sylocat> Oh… and he didn’t even realize she’d tried to get rid of him?
[14:22] <Sylocat> Is this yet more incest subtext?
01[14:22] <Froborr> I hope not. He’s young enough that *probably* not, it’s just affection he’s after.
[14:23] <Sylocat> A giant ant lion. That’s… in keeping with this series
[14:23] <Sylocat> How many times did she try this?
01[14:23] <Froborr> MIRUN IS INDESTRUCTIBLE
01[14:24] <Froborr> Or… not.
[14:24] <Sylocat> They should have named him Ludwig
[14:24] <Sylocat> Wait, WHAT?
01[14:24] <Froborr> Not where I expected this to go.
[14:25] <Arrlaari> ad
[14:25] <Sylocat> …Did she kill him, or was it really just an accident that solved her problem for her (or so she thought, presumably)
[14:25] <Sylocat> This time, I have the ad too
[14:25] <Sylocat> Oh… ad over already. I wonder why Hulu is being so polite for once
[14:27] <Arrlaari> When Hulu can’t sell ads they don’t just fill the quota by repeating their own, I guess
[14:27] <Sylocat> Well… that’s nice of them
[14:27] <Arrlaari> They were able to sell ad time to quite a few advertisers in my market
[14:28] <Arrlaari> ad over
[14:29] <Arrlaari> ready to resume?
[14:29] <Arrlaari> Hm. That might be a router reset.
[14:29] <Arrlaari> Uh, Froborr, are you there?
01[14:30] <Froborr> Yep.
[14:30] <Arrlaari> I guessed it.
[14:30] <Sylocat_> Okay… everyone ready?
[14:30] <Arrlaari> I am.
[14:30] <Sylocat_> Click
[14:31] <Sylocat_> Ah yes… last time, I was surprised that Kureha didn’t know that bears could disguise themselves as human
[14:31] <Sylocat_> Does she know these two are bears?
01[14:32] <Froborr> I don’t think she does.
[14:32] <Sylocat_> Hmm…
03[14:32] * Sylocat_ is now known as Sylocat
[14:32] <Arrlaari> Yurizono told her, but her accusation is not credible in light of her turning out to have been a bear
[14:33] <Sylocat> “Playbears.” I love it
[14:33] <Sylocat> Ah, so the court hates her because she rejected all of them
[14:34] <Sylocat> Did we get an explanation for what’s up with the glowing red bee?
01[14:34] <Froborr> I think it’s just emblematic of her defenses.
[14:34] <Sylocat> Wait… I thought they saw his body in the courtyard
[14:35] <Sylocat> Awww
[14:35] <Sylocat> Oh… this is a dream? Out of guilt?
[14:35] <Sylocat> And this is where she met Ringo?
[14:35] <Sylocat> Yeah, it’s Ringo
01[14:35] <Froborr> I think you mean Ginko.
[14:35] <Sylocat> Right… sorry
[14:35] <Sylocat> Ringo’s the stalker in the other show
01[14:35] <Froborr> Ringo is the stalker in Penguindrum.
01[14:35] <Froborr> yep
[14:36] <Sylocat> Great minds, fools, etc
[14:36] <Sylocat> Oh…
[14:36] <Sylocat> But this is Ginko returning the honey?
01[14:36] <Froborr> Shit, it just stalled.
[14:37] <Sylocat> Uh oh
[14:37] <Arrlaari> paused at 19:07
01[14:37] <Froborr> Stalled out immediately after the line “I hated you from the beginning, and I must have loved you from the beginning too.”
[14:37] <Sylocat> Ah…
01[14:37] <Froborr> Pause to buffer? Sorry.
[14:38] <Sylocat> Sure
[14:38] <Sylocat> I’ll pause at exactly 19:00
01[14:40] <Froborr> Okay, it’s not buffering.
01[14:40] <Froborr> Going to refresh the page, see if tht fixes it.
[14:40] <Sylocat> Dang… need to reload the page or something?
[14:41] <Sylocat> Ah… great minds yet again
01[14:41] <Froborr> Okay, seems to be working fine now.
01[14:42] <Froborr> I’m paused at 19:00
[14:42] <Sylocat> Okay…
[14:42] <Sylocat> Click
[14:42] <Sylocat> Aww…
[14:43] <Sylocat> From “her?” Who’s her?
[14:43] <Sylocat> Ginko had another love?
01[14:43] <Froborr> Wait, Ginko and Kureha have a promise?
01[14:43] <Froborr> Or…?
[14:44] <Sylocat> It has to be Kureha. Who else could it be?
[14:45] <Sylocat> It wouldn’t be a character we haven’t met yet
[14:46] <Sylocat> Yep, it’s Kureha
[14:46] <Sylocat> Wow
[14:48] <Sylocat> So… there’s a backstory there
01[14:49] <Froborr> Yep.
01[14:49] <Froborr> That was a definite backstory episode.
01[14:49] <Froborr> Thought it’s also possible that Ginko’s promise was with Kureha’s mom.
[14:49] <Sylocat> Next we learn how Ginko got the Promise Kiss from either Kureha or Kureha’s mom
[14:49] <Sylocat> (the latter of which would make things awkward, but oh well)
[14:49] <Arrlaari> I wonder if either of you noticed that Ginko had a pendant just like the one Kureha’s mother wears in the photograph before the camera points it out at the end of this episode
01[14:50] <Froborr> Nope.
[14:50] <Sylocat> Yeah, that’s why we’re assuming it’s Kureha (or Kureha’s mom)
[14:50] <Sylocat> Oh… I noticed that
01[14:50] <Froborr> Didn’t notice until the epiosde pointed it out.
[14:50] <Sylocat> Oh, you mean… notice it before then?
[14:51] <Sylocat> Sorry… did we actually see it in the photograph before then?
[14:51] <Arrlaari> Yeah. Ginko has been wearing it since her first appearance, and we’ve seen the photograph several times, including in a scene where the teacher speaks about Kureha’s mother
[14:52] <Sylocat> Huh
[14:55] <Sylocat> Anyway… I’ve preloaded and paused Penguindrum
[14:55] <Sylocat> (yay alliteration)
[14:56] <Sylocat> Did I get disconnected again?
01[14:56] <Froborr> Nope.
[14:56] <Sylocat> It says I’m still on
01[14:56] <Froborr> I’m also preloaded and paused.
[14:57] <Arrlaari> preloading
[14:57] <Sylocat> Okay… start on the hour?
[14:57] <Sylocat> (or sooner works too)
[14:58] <Arrlaari> paused after initial ad
[14:58] <Sylocat> Okay…
[14:59] <Arrlaari> Kanba is red brother, right?
[14:59] <Arrlaari> And blue brother is Shou?
01[14:59] <Froborr> Blue brother is Shou.
01[14:59] <Froborr> Dunno about red, Kanba sounds about right though.
[15:00] <Sylocat> Click
[15:00] <Sylocat> Another flashback episode
[15:00] <Sylocat> Gee, dad seems nice
[15:02] <Sylocat> We still haven’t met the pink-haired person in the white coat, right?
[15:02] <Arrlaari> ad
[15:02] <Arrlaari> post credits
[15:02] <Sylocat> Same here
[15:05] <Sylocat> 15 seconds left on mine
[15:05] <Arrlaari> ad finished here
[15:05] <Sylocat> Paused
[15:05] <Sylocat> Okay…
[15:05] <Sylocat> Click
[15:05] <Sylocat> Is the doctor evil? He has an evil voice
[15:06] <Sylocat> Evil glasses too
01[15:07] <Froborr> Oh, for a second I thought he was just humoring Shou, but he thinks he’s joking.
[15:07] <Sylocat> Oh… he’s just a jerk
01[15:07] <Froborr> Oh, long-dark-haired girl isn’t dead.
[15:07] <Sylocat> Wait… who are these two?
01[15:07] <Froborr> They’re from Kanba’s League of Probably Not Evil Exes.
[15:07] <Sylocat> Ah, right
[15:07] <Sylocat> And one of them got pushed down an escalator?
01[15:08] <Froborr> Yeah, darkhaired one.
[15:08] <Sylocat> What in the name of…
01[15:08] <Froborr> …Why does redhead have a slingshot wiht a laser sight?
[15:08] <Sylocat> So only one of the Exes is evil
01[15:09] <Froborr> Ah, their uncle wants to sell their house?
01[15:09] <Froborr> Wait, their parents aren’t dead?
[15:09] <Sylocat> A new subplot
01[15:10] <Froborr> Yeah, I was warned going in that this series has a METRIC FUCKTON of subplots.
[15:10] <Sylocat> Who’s she having lunch with?
01[15:10] <Froborr> Her father I believe.
01[15:10] <Froborr> Her parents are divorced, right?
[15:10] <Sylocat> Ah… and her crush on Tabuki is because of repressed daddy issues?
[15:11] <Sylocat> Eww… that facial hair does not work on an anime character
01[15:11] <Froborr> Probably.
[15:12] <Sylocat> *sigh*
[15:12] <Sylocat> What are Mont Blancs?
01[15:12] <Froborr> I dunno, I feel like the Ringo subplot has crossed over from cringe comedy into tragic villain territory.
[15:12] <Sylocat> They’re like a pastry, I think
01[15:12] <Froborr> It’s defniitely getting sinister.
[15:12] <Arrlaari> ad
[15:12] <Sylocat> Ad here as well
[15:13] <Sylocat> And, though that conversation in the last episode may have been one of Ringo’s fantasies, I think Yuri actually does know about her
[15:13] <Arrlaari> The last episode may have been farce, but the way her interest in him was introduced framed it as sinister
01[15:13] <Froborr> A Mont Blanc is a sweetened puree of chestnuts topped with wipped cream.
[15:13] <Arrlaari> I didn’t read that conversation as fantasy, because it wasn’t framed in paper cutouts
01[15:14] <Froborr> Althouhg apparently in Japan it can have other seasonings mixed in, or sometimes be made of something other than chestnuts.
[15:15] <Sylocat> I should learn to make that
[15:15] <Arrlaari> ad over, paused
[15:15] <Sylocat> Almost done with mine
[15:16] <Sylocat> Okay…
[15:16] <Sylocat> Click
[15:16] <Sylocat> What in the name of…
[15:16] <Sylocat> What happened?
[15:16] <Sylocat> Where did that mirror or window or whatever come from?
01[15:17] <Froborr> It was a pretty heavy storm. Could’ve been a lamp?
[15:17] <Arrlaari> A storm can pick up a lot of stuff in the wind
01[15:17] <Froborr> Is Kanba a smuggler now? Or getting involved with yakuza?
[15:18] <Sylocat> Is she saying “Guriguriguriguri” like the bears in Yurikuma do when they’re frustrated?
01[15:18] <Froborr> I really like the friendship between the two girls.
01[15:18] <Froborr> And yes, I think she is.
01[15:20] <Froborr> Is she drawing Ringo into the train thing now?
01[15:21] <Froborr> Hey, wait, was last epiosde the first one without the trainsformation sequence?
[15:21] <Arrlaari> I forget, it may have been
[15:22] <Sylocat_> *sigh*
01[15:22] <Froborr> Paused.
01[15:22] <Froborr> What was the last you saw, Sylo?
[15:22] <Sylocat_> Paused where?
01[15:22] <Froborr> 16:09 for me.
[15:22] <Arrlaari> I’m at 9:09
[15:22] <Arrlaari> wait, that was inverted
[15:22] <Arrlaari> 16:14
[15:24] <Sylocat_> *sigh* I’m at 13:35, when Ringo’s just said “It’s a diary of my destiny.” I’ll skip a head
[15:24] <Arrlaari> don’t skip, you can watch
[15:24] <Sylocat_> Oh… he’s actually telling her about the hat?
[15:25] <Sylocat_> What’s with all the subway imagery in this series?
01[15:25] <Froborr> Related to the Night on the Galactic Railway ref in the first episode, maybe?
[15:26] <Sylocat_> Ouch… a sow?
[15:26] <Arrlaari> Hat Alien is Judging You
[15:26] <Arrlaari> Hat Alien speaks really dismissively to the brothers, as well
[15:27] <Sylocat_> Whoa
[15:27] <Sylocat_> Ringo ain’t putting up with this
[15:27] <Arrlaari> We’re still paused
[15:27] <Arrlaari> I’m at “This is all a joke”
[15:27] <Sylocat_> Oh right… 16:14?
[15:28] <Arrlaari> that was where I stopped, yes
[15:28] <Sylocat_> Oka.y.. skipping back to then
[15:28] <Sylocat_> Ready?
[15:28] <Arrlaari> Visible on this frame: A transluscent bear head
[15:28] <Sylocat_> Click
[15:28] <Arrlaari> Looks like the bear iconography in Yurikuma. There’s a penguin head to the right of it
01[15:29] <Froborr> Whoa. Ringo is taking none of this shit.
[15:29] <Sylocat_> Oh dear…
01[15:29] <Froborr> lol, Good-Bye truck.
[15:29] <Sylocat_> It landed on a truck
[15:30] <Sylocat_> Uh oh
[15:30] <Arrlaari> ad
[15:30] <Sylocat_> Ad
[15:32] <Arrlaari> paaused after ad
[15:32] <Sylocat_> Ad over, paused
[15:32] <Sylocat_> Oh. Uh… click
[15:33] <Sylocat_> Ah, he has a bicycle
01[15:33] <Froborr> Did Kanba pull a bicycle from under his coat?
01[15:33] <Froborr> That’s a pretty neat trick.
[15:33] <Arrlaari> He might have stolen it from the street
[15:33] <Sylocat_> He’s like Bill, from The Red Green Show
[15:33] <Sylocat_> Or Harpo Marx
01[15:34] <Froborr> Penguin saves the day!
[15:34] <Arrlaari> This is likely to cause an accident
[15:34] <Sylocat_> The Penguin has one of those extenda-grabber things?
01[15:34] <Froborr> Or gets Kanba killed by roadhauling, whichever.
[15:34] <Arrlaari> I suspect the people who made this show aren’t aware that being dragged like this is fatal
01[15:35] <Froborr> Aren’t aware/don’t care
01[15:35] <Froborr> I mean, we DID just see a man pull a bicycle out of his coat.
[15:35] <Sylocat_> It’s anime, I think we’re just supposed to go with it
[15:35] <Sylocat_> Also, hats don’t possess people with penguin-themed alien life forms
[15:36] <Sylocat_> Oh… they don’t have to put it on her head?
01[15:36] <Froborr> And yet another subplot: where the hell is Kanba getting money from?
[15:37] <Sylocat_> Ahaha… the penguin gets a body cast
[15:37] <Arrlaari> There’s definitely nothing fishy about this money I just got
[15:37] <Sylocat_> Yeah, I agree that Kanba’s probably mixed up with the Yakuza or something
[15:37] <Arrlaari> On short notice and under emotional pressure. It’s totally legit money.
01[15:38] <Froborr> Note the envelope had the same penguin logo.
[15:38] <Arrlaari> I like that Shou decided to just tell people about the alien hat, and that it worked out
01[15:38] <Froborr> I think it’s significant that the money envelope and his dad’s jacket both had it.
[15:38] <Sylocat_> Yeah… and I like that Ringo stood up to the thing
01[15:38] <Froborr> And yeah, I like the short-circuiting of the secrets.
01[15:38] <Froborr> And I really liked Ringo kicking its ass!
[15:38] <Sylocat_> This was way better than the last couple episodes
01[15:39] <Froborr> I actually realy liked last episode, but yeah, this was great.
[15:39] <Arrlaari> As rude and arrogant as the hat is, it’s basically right about Ringo being an awful stalker
[15:40] <Sylocat_> I’m curious about how Ringo’s going to process that information; we didn’t really see her react after she tossed the hat away
01[15:43] <Froborr> I suspect she’ll probably find a way to reject it as just part of the alien being mean.
[15:43] <Sylocat_> Well, sure
[15:44] <Sylocat_> Which raises the question of whether she’ll be more or less inclined to turn over the diary
[15:44] <Arrlaari> Speaking of the alien, since Ringo cares about Himari not dying, I’m guessing she’ll let the jerk hat look at her future diary and it’ll turn out not to be the Penguindrum, and Alien Hat will demand that Ringo participate in the ongoing search
01[15:45] <Froborr> Seems quite plausible.
[15:48] <Sylocat_> I must be off… there’s a belated cast party for Merchant of Venice this evening
[15:48] <Arrlaari> So, the ex-girlfriends’ union subplot. Last episode I compared the sleeve worn by the hand that pushed her to Ringo’s and saw that it was different from what Ringo wore that episode
01[15:48] <Froborr> All right, later!
01[15:48] <Froborr> Yes, I saw that.
[15:49] <Arrlaari> I haven’t checked again, but I’m guessing that if I did, that sleeve would match the shirt Ms. “This must be crushed immediately” is wearing in this episode.
01[15:50] <Froborr> Hmm, probably.